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  • Seiko
    Treeleaf Unsui
    • Jul 2020
    • 961

    Chanting & Zazen Circle (Mo thru Sa)

    Chanting & Zazen Circle

    This zazen circle begins on 1st March 2021. Please do join us at 8pm, Monday to Saturday.
    The circle is open to everyone and all who chant and sit together here are equals.

    Initially, the sessions are being led by Ryokudo and Seiko. We have chosen Sandokai to begin chanting together. Feel free to suggest other chants for the circle to adopt.

    Sandokai is on page 4 of the Treeleaf Chant Book here - https://drive.google.com/file/d/17pu...w?usp=sSandoka

    The initial plan:
    8pm GMT - Chant Sandokai.
    Zazen – 27 minutes.
    Closing chant/thanks/goodbyes.
    Depart 8.45.

    The chants being used will be posted on this thread on a Sunday.

    It would be wonderful to have you with us, please pop in when you can.

    As we hope you can see, we envisage this as a community driven venture, so any volunteers to lead the circle will be encouraged and nurtured.

    We look forward to seeing you.

    Gassho,

    Ryokudo and Seiko
    Last edited by Jundo; 02-04-2023, 12:08 PM.
    Gandō Seiko
    頑道清光
    (Stubborn Way of Pure Light)

    My street name is 'Al'.

    Any words I write here are merely the thoughts of an apprentice priest, just my opinions, that's all.
  • Nengei
    Member
    • Dec 2016
    • 1697

    #2
    8 pm UDT?

    Gassho
    Nengei
    Sat today. LAH.
    遜道念芸 Sondō Nengei (he/him)

    Please excuse any indication that I am trying to teach anything. I am a priest in training and have no qualifications or credentials to teach Zen practice or the Dharma.

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    • Risho
      Member
      • May 2010
      • 3179

      #3
      This sounds really cool!

      gassho

      Risho
      -stlah
      Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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      • Kotei
        Treeleaf Unsui
        • Mar 2015
        • 3927

        #4
        Thank you Seiko, looking forward to join here and there.

        It's 8pm UTC (the time standard) and should be the same time as GMT (the timezone), until the end of March where daylight saving changes it to BST.
        It will show up in the Calendar for easier timezone translation soon!

        Gassho,
        Kotei sat/lah today.

        Originally posted by Nengei
        8 pm UDT?

        Gassho
        Nengei
        Sat today. LAH.
        Last edited by Kotei; 02-24-2021, 10:23 AM.

        義道 冴庭 / Gidō Kotei.
        Being a novice priest doesn't mean my writing about the Dharma is more substantial than yours. Actually, it might well be the other way round.

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        • Bion
          Treeleaf Unsui
          • Aug 2020
          • 3725

          #5
          Chanting & Zazen Circle (Mo thru Sa)

          So is everyone to keep their microphones on and chant simultaneously or is everyone chanting by themselves, mic off and just the host chants out loud?

          [emoji1374] SatToday
          Last edited by Bion; 08-23-2023, 07:27 AM.
          "Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi

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          • Risho
            Member
            • May 2010
            • 3179

            #6
            Originally posted by Bion
            So is everyone yo keep their microphones on and chant simultaneously or is everyone chanting by themselves, mic off and just the host chants out loud?

            [emoji1374] SatToday
            I don't know if it would get insane on zoom, but I'd personally like to have our mics on - I think we'd need to wear headphones though to mute out any ambient sound that could cause feedback.

            Gassho

            Risho
            -st
            Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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            • Shoka
              Member
              • May 2014
              • 2370

              #7
              If you do leave all the mics open, regardless of headphones or not, you will be hearing background noise, lag and interference. It is lovely through even in the chaos.

              There isn't a good way to battle lag which will make some people always sound behind or ahead. My brother is a music teacher and has been teaching from home for the last year.... they still haven't figured out a way to actually get the kids playing together.

              But for your purposes as long as everyone knows that is going to happen, and there is nothing "wrong"; then you can enjoy what comes out. This is the main reason to mute everyone during the zazenkai's and other ceremony because it can become very chaotic.

              Gassho,
              Shoka
              (she/her)
              sat/lah

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              • Risho
                Member
                • May 2010
                • 3179

                #8
                Originally posted by Shoka
                If you do leave all the mics open, regardless of headphones or not, you will be hearing background noise, lag and interference. It is lovely through even in the chaos.
                hahahah I knew you'd say that

                Gassho

                Risho
                -stlah
                Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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                • Ryokudo
                  Member
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 250

                  #9
                  So I guess mics off then unless we feel like experimenting on the day

                  Gassho

                  Ryokudo

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                  • Sekishi
                    Treeleaf Priest / Engineer
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 5670

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Risho
                    I think we'd need to wear headphones though to mute out any ambient sound that could cause feedback.
                    Agreed. Without headphones feedback is inevitable. Feedback with network lag is such a fun and wild beast - "MOAR ECHO!!! echo!!! e.c.h.o..."

                    I think it would be a fun experiment to have mics on. The biggest issue I personally run into in that type of situation is that the human brain does not do well when reciting if time shifted versions of the thing being recited is fed back into the ears. It is like an automatic 50 point IQ hit!

                    Anyhow, have fun and experiment, and I'm sure a method will present itself. Thank you all for practicing together.

                    Deep bows,
                    Sekishi
                    Sekishi | 石志 | He/him | Better with a grain of salt, but best ignored entirely.

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                    • Seiko
                      Treeleaf Unsui
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 961

                      #11
                      Thank you to everyone posting here. Ryokudo and I have summoned every ounce of courage we can, in order to bring this idea to the table. So far, the level of response is heart warming.

                      Mics on, mics off - let's see how it goes. We are keen on good intention and already know our chanting voices are imperfect. Perhaps a little feedback and distortion might enhance the sounds we make. In either case, we'll let you know during each session whether it's mics off or an "open mic night".

                      See you there!

                      In Gassho
                      Seiko
                      stlah
                      Gandō Seiko
                      頑道清光
                      (Stubborn Way of Pure Light)

                      My street name is 'Al'.

                      Any words I write here are merely the thoughts of an apprentice priest, just my opinions, that's all.

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                      • Seiko
                        Treeleaf Unsui
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 961

                        #12
                        Week commencing 1st March 2021 (GMT):

                        This, our first week, we begin by chanting Sanki Raimon together before Sandokai.

                        Sanki Raimon

                        I take refuge in buddha.
                        May all beings
                        embody the great way,
                        resolving to awaken.

                        I take refuge in dharma.
                        May all living beings
                        deeply enter the sutras,
                        wisdom like an ocean.

                        I take refuge in sangha.
                        May all beings
                        support harmony in the community,
                        free from hindrance.

                        Sandokai can be found in the Treeleaf Chant book - that we use for Weekly and Monthly Zazenkai.

                        In Gassho
                        Seiko
                        stlah
                        Gandō Seiko
                        頑道清光
                        (Stubborn Way of Pure Light)

                        My street name is 'Al'.

                        Any words I write here are merely the thoughts of an apprentice priest, just my opinions, that's all.

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                        • Risho
                          Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 3179

                          #13
                          Whoever implemented the treeleaf now calendar; fantastic work; thank you!

                          Seiko this is in the heart of my workday; will you be posting recordings?

                          gassho

                          risho
                          -stlah
                          Last edited by Risho; 02-27-2021, 03:56 AM.
                          Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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                          • Seiko
                            Treeleaf Unsui
                            • Jul 2020
                            • 961

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Risho
                            Whoever implemented the treeleaf now calendar; fantastic work; thank you!

                            Seiko this is in the heart of my workday; will you be posting recordings?

                            gassho

                            risho
                            -stlah
                            Hello Risho,
                            Yes the regional time differences can be a barrier to overcome. In choosing this time we were hoping to provide accessibility for people in UK and Europe, but of course everyone is invited and welcome.

                            I am not sure how to arrange to post recordings. I can put that question to Shoka and Sekishi.

                            In Gassho
                            Seiko
                            stlah
                            Last edited by Seiko; 02-27-2021, 05:38 PM.
                            Gandō Seiko
                            頑道清光
                            (Stubborn Way of Pure Light)

                            My street name is 'Al'.

                            Any words I write here are merely the thoughts of an apprentice priest, just my opinions, that's all.

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                            • Risho
                              Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 3179

                              #15
                              nah no worries; Iunderstand; I’ll join when I can
                              Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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