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A TREELEAF EXPERIMENT: Three Sacred Sentences (Please Join Poll)
I don't see the point in continuing this to be honest ;
I see few people taking it seriously or even trying to limit themselves.
Disappointing.
Gassho
Meitou
Sattoday lah
I don't see the point in continuing this to be honest ;
I see few people taking it seriously or even trying to limit themselves.
Disappointing.
Gassho
Meitou
Sattoday lah
Well, if it is popular, it may just require reminding people more often, and giving a look ...
I don't see the point in continuing this to be honest ;
I see few people taking it seriously or even trying to limit themselves.
Disappointing.
Gassho
Meitou
Sattoday lah
I like the idea as it forces people to think about what's really necessary to say (whether people actually know about it or remember is another issue entirely).
That being said, I do think 3 is a bit short, a lot of ideas/thoughts can be difficult to express adequately in only 3 sentences. I feel like 9 would be a better limit (it also still sticks with the theme of 3 that way). I'm aware there is the whole "unless absolutely necessary" clause to that, however I could potentially see some argument over what is deemed necessary.
Evan,
Sat Today!
Last edited by gaurdianaq; 07-31-2020, 04:23 PM.
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I don't see the point in continuing this to be honest ;
I see few people taking it seriously or even trying to limit themselves.
Disappointing.
Gassho
Meitou
Sattoday lah
I like it - but regardless of my preference - we need to do a better job of trying to adhere to this; I think the exception would be with the book club lol
Anyone who doesn’t participate in the exercise will never know what the benefit to their practice might have been. But our encounter with the exercise will bring unique opportunities for self-reflection and growth for each of us, regardless of what others are doing, if we allow it. Maybe ask the question, what is this exercise bringing up for ME, and how can I learn from it?
By the way, I did not make up the content any of those Vinaya rules (although I don't think it literally says "bag of rice," it does list similar "inanimate objects"). Apparently, a few of those old monks came up with 101 ways to bend the rules on a lonely Tuesday night.
And you guys think you have it rough just to use three sentences!?!
Gassho, J
STLah
The intricacy of detail for spiritual legislation against seminal emissions in the Vinaya in your quotation is hilarious. I remember reading a translation of Dogen's Shobogenzo I acquired during a Zen retreat at Mt. Shasta Abbey, California where the first few sections seemed very deep but before I knew it I was headlong in lavatory instructions about not making sordid noises in your stall and whatnot. I started to feel bogged down with the whole thing and didn't continue reading... so I'm wondering if you have any advice on getting through the weirder elements in Buddhist holy writ?
-Satoday-
"Priest" here is rude. Not worth the time if you want depth in discussion because past a point he just goes into shut-down mode. No wonder he limits everyone to three sentences and is the most frequent offender of his own rule. Some kind of control thing. Won't be back.
I like this experiment as it challenges me to the point where I've started thinking about my speech IRL. I hope it continues too however when it comes to discussion of books and responding to questions unfortunately the reigns are off. In saying that I'll keep trying.
Gassho
Onka
st
Agreed. I'm in full favor of continuing the practice as long as we can all agree that there will be valid exceptions like the aforementioned book discussions.
I like it - but regardless of my preference - we need to do a better job of trying to adhere to this; I think the exception would be with the book club lol
Gassho
Rish
-stlah
Yes, let's make an exception for the book club.
Would our book club leaders (Jakuden, Geika, Byokan and Shoka) feel free to announce there that the book club is unbound!
I love the 3 sentences. Even when I go over the limit, it really makes me think carefully about what I say.
Gassho
Kyōshin
Satlah
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This is exactly how I feel too ; further than thinking about how I say something, I also question my motives for posting - what am I contributing, is it necessary to the bigger picture, is it just more noise?
A great ego checker and I'm glad to see it has so much support.
Gassho
Meitou
Sattoday lah
This is exactly how I feel too ; further than thinking about how I say something, I also question my motives for posting - what am I contributing, is it necessary to the bigger picture, is it just more noise?
A great ego checker and I'm glad to see it has so much support.
Gassho
Meitou
Sattoday lah
absolutely! I have a big ego and really need this to help me do exactly what you are saying; is it helpful or am i just being argumentative or self aggrandizing both of which I am a master practitioner at lol
If I understood half of Dr Heine's Dharma talk, I would be quite the scholar, and apparently there are several people in our Zendo who unserstand more than half of this talk. I believe we have several Buddhist scholars in our midsts who have taken vows well beyond me.
Tai Shi
sat/ lah
Gassho
Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆
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