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  • Matt
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    • Oct 2012
    • 497

    #16


    Matt
    SatToday

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    • Risho
      Member
      • May 2010
      • 3178

      #17
      Originally posted by Nenka
      How long until people start breaking up long posts into 1/10, 2/10, etc. like they do on Twitter?

      Gassho

      Nenka
      ST
      hahaha - this place is the jedi council compared to Mos Eisley (that being twitter) lol

      Gassho

      Rish
      -stlah
      Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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      • Kyōsen
        Member
        • Aug 2019
        • 311

        #18
        Less is more

        Gassho
        Kyōsen
        Sat|LAH
        橋川
        kyō (bridge) | sen (river)

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        • Meitou
          Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 1656

          #19
          Originally posted by kirkmc
          As a long-time fan of Henry James, I approve of this message. :-)

          Gassho,

          Kirk

          sat
          And I approve of yours!

          Meitou
          sattodaylah
          命 Mei - life
          島 Tou - island

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          • Michael Joseph
            Member
            • Mar 2017
            • 181

            #20
            Originally posted by Meitou
            I'm raising the stakes ; I give you - Henry James!
            Gassho
            Meitou
            Sattoday lah
            Being from the American South, I'll be reading Faulkner. MMMM--earthy.

            Gassho,

            Hobun

            STLAH

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 41217

              #21
              Originally posted by Nenka
              How long until people start breaking up long posts into 1/10, 2/10, etc. like they do on Twitter?

              Gassho

              Nenka
              ST
              No, will wag a finger at too much of that, and I added "(of ordinary length)" to the description to cover Faulkner and friends.

              This is how the Vinaya rule for monk behavior in India started off with a simple rule like "don't have sex," and soon ended up with pages and pages of rules about "and that includes not with a sack of rice" but "it's okay if asleep and you had sex in a dream but you didn't mean it, but not including if you went to sleep hoping it would happen in a dream, and further, the foregoing includes dreams about sacks of rice!"

              So, let's keep the spirit of the rule!

              Gassho, J

              STLah
              Last edited by Jundo; 07-17-2020, 08:04 PM.
              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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              • Shinshi
                Senior Priest-in-Training
                • Jul 2010
                • 3827

                #22
                Originally posted by Jundo
                No, will wag a finger at too much of that, and I added "(of ordinary length)" to the description to cover Faulkner and friends.

                This is how the Vinaya rule for monk behavior in India started off with a simple rule like "don't have sex," and soon ended up with pages and pages of rules about "and that includes not with a sack of rice" but "it's okay if asleep and you had sex in a dream but you didn't mean it, but not including if you went to sleep hoping it would happen in a dream, and further, the foregoing includes dreams about sacks of rice!"

                So, let's keep the spirit of the rule!

                Gassho, J

                STLah


                Gassho, Shinshi

                SaT-LaH
                空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi

                For Zen students a weed is a treasure. With this attitude, whatever you do, life becomes an art.
                ​— Shunryu Suzuki

                E84I - JAJ

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                • Kyonin
                  Dharma Transmitted Priest
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 6752

                  #23
                  Understood.

                  Gassho,

                  Kyonin
                  Sat/LAH
                  Hondō Kyōnin
                  奔道 協忍

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                  • Jakuden
                    Member
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 6141

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jundo
                    No, will wag a finger at too much of that, and I added "(of ordinary length)" to the description to cover Faulkner and friends.

                    This is how the Vinaya rule for monk behavior in India started off with a simple rule like "don't have sex," and soon ended up with pages and pages of rules about "and that includes not with a sack of rice" but "it's okay if asleep and you had sex in a dream but you didn't mean it, but not including if you went to sleep hoping it would happen in a dream, and further, the foregoing includes dreams about sacks of rice!"

                    So, let's keep the spirit of the rule!

                    Gassho, J

                    STLah
                    Yeah sounds just like the journey of the policy manual at my clinic. Every year we revise it and add all the new creative sandbox rules we have been forced to come up with.

                    Gassho
                    Jakuden
                    SatToday/LAH



                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

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                    • Jundo
                      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 41217

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Shinshi


                      Gassho, Shinshi

                      SaT-LaH
                      By the way, I did not make up the content any of those Vinaya rules (although I don't think it literally says "bag of rice," it does list similar "inanimate objects"). Apparently, a few of those old monks came up with 101 ways to bend the rules on a lonely Tuesday night.

                      Intentional emission of semen, except while dreaming, entails initial and subsequent meetings of the Community. ... A bhikkhu causes an emission making an effort (1) at an internal object, (2) at an external object, (3) at both an internal and an external object, or (4) by shaking his pelvis in the air. It then goes on to explain these terms: The internal object is one’s own living body. External objects can either be animate or inanimate objects. ...

                      In making the exception for what happens while asleep, the Buddha states that even though there may be the intention to cause an emission, it doesn’t count. The Commentary goes on to say, however, that if a bhikkhu fully awakens in the course of a wet dream, he should lie still and be extremely careful not to make a move that would fulfill the factor of effort under this rule. If the process has reached the point where it is irreversible and the ejaculation occurs spontaneously, he incurs no penalty regardless of whether he enjoys it. ... However, the Commentary’s two cases concerning nocturnal emissions, mentioned above, indicate that if a nocturnal emission occurs after a bhikkhu made a fully intentional effort toward an emission before falling asleep, he would incur the full offense under this rule unless the effort and intent were clearly stopped with a clear change of heart while he was still awake.


                      And you guys think you have it rough just to use three sentences!?!

                      Gassho, J

                      STLah
                      Last edited by Jundo; 07-18-2020, 12:14 AM.
                      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                      • Amelia
                        Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 4980

                        #26
                        I consider it an excellent challenge in learning to write more intentionally.

                        Gassho
                        Sat today, lah
                        求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
                        I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.

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                        • Science Abbot
                          Member
                          • Dec 2018
                          • 104

                          #27
                          Wonderful.

                          "Simple can be harder than complex: you have to work hard to get your thinking clean to make it simple." - Steve Jobs (Wired, 1996)

                          Gassho,
                          Mui
                          Sat/LAH
                          無依 Mui
                          "Relies on Nothing"

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                          • shikantazen
                            Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 361

                            #28
                            Interesting. What's the idea behind introducing this?

                            Gassho,
                            Sam
                            STLah

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                            • Tai Shi
                              Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 3482

                              #29
                              Old Teacher Old Artificer stand me now and ever in good stead.
                              Tai Shi
                              sat/ lah
                              Gassho
                              Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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                              • Seibu
                                Member
                                • Jan 2019
                                • 271

                                #30
                                Sounds like a great experiment

                                Gassho,
                                Seibu
                                Sattoday

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