A TREELEAF EXPERIMENT: Three Sacred Sentences (Please Join Poll)

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  • Risho
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 3178

    #61
    hahahah
    Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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    • Meitou
      Member
      • Feb 2017
      • 1656

      #62
      I don't see the point in continuing this to be honest ;
      I see few people taking it seriously or even trying to limit themselves.
      Disappointing.
      Gassho
      Meitou
      Sattoday lah
      命 Mei - life
      島 Tou - island

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      • Jundo
        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
        • Apr 2006
        • 41571

        #63
        Originally posted by Meitou
        I don't see the point in continuing this to be honest ;
        I see few people taking it seriously or even trying to limit themselves.
        Disappointing.
        Gassho
        Meitou
        Sattoday lah
        Well, if it is popular, it may just require reminding people more often, and giving a look ...



        Gassho, J

        STLah
        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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        • gaurdianaq
          Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 252

          #64
          Originally posted by Meitou
          I don't see the point in continuing this to be honest ;
          I see few people taking it seriously or even trying to limit themselves.
          Disappointing.
          Gassho
          Meitou
          Sattoday lah
          I like the idea as it forces people to think about what's really necessary to say (whether people actually know about it or remember is another issue entirely).

          That being said, I do think 3 is a bit short, a lot of ideas/thoughts can be difficult to express adequately in only 3 sentences. I feel like 9 would be a better limit (it also still sticks with the theme of 3 that way). I'm aware there is the whole "unless absolutely necessary" clause to that, however I could potentially see some argument over what is deemed necessary.

          Evan,
          Sat Today!
          Last edited by gaurdianaq; 07-31-2020, 04:23 PM. Reason: Clarity
          Just going through life one day at a time!

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          • Risho
            Member
            • May 2010
            • 3178

            #65
            Originally posted by Meitou
            I don't see the point in continuing this to be honest ;
            I see few people taking it seriously or even trying to limit themselves.
            Disappointing.
            Gassho
            Meitou
            Sattoday lah
            I like it - but regardless of my preference - we need to do a better job of trying to adhere to this; I think the exception would be with the book club lol

            Gassho

            Rish
            -stlah
            Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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            • Jakuden
              Member
              • Jun 2015
              • 6139

              #66
              A TREELEAF EXPERIMENT: Three Sacred Sentences

              Anyone who doesn’t participate in the exercise will never know what the benefit to their practice might have been. But our encounter with the exercise will bring unique opportunities for self-reflection and growth for each of us, regardless of what others are doing, if we allow it. Maybe ask the question, what is this exercise bringing up for ME, and how can I learn from it?

              Gassho
              Jakuden
              SatToday/LAH


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              Last edited by Jakuden; 07-31-2020, 07:46 PM.

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              • Tairin
                Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 3026

                #67
                I like it too. I’d like to see it continue.


                Tairin
                Sat today and lah
                泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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                • A.J.
                  Member
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 176

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Jundo
                  By the way, I did not make up the content any of those Vinaya rules (although I don't think it literally says "bag of rice," it does list similar "inanimate objects"). Apparently, a few of those old monks came up with 101 ways to bend the rules on a lonely Tuesday night.





                  And you guys think you have it rough just to use three sentences!?!

                  Gassho, J

                  STLah
                  The intricacy of detail for spiritual legislation against seminal emissions in the Vinaya in your quotation is hilarious. I remember reading a translation of Dogen's Shobogenzo I acquired during a Zen retreat at Mt. Shasta Abbey, California where the first few sections seemed very deep but before I knew it I was headlong in lavatory instructions about not making sordid noises in your stall and whatnot. I started to feel bogged down with the whole thing and didn't continue reading... so I'm wondering if you have any advice on getting through the weirder elements in Buddhist holy writ?

                  -Satoday-
                  "Priest" here is rude. Not worth the time if you want depth in discussion because past a point he just goes into shut-down mode. No wonder he limits everyone to three sentences and is the most frequent offender of his own rule. Some kind of control thing. Won't be back.

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                  • Onka
                    Member
                    • May 2019
                    • 1576

                    #69
                    I like this experiment as it challenges me to the point where I've started thinking about my speech IRL. I hope it continues too however when it comes to discussion of books and responding to questions unfortunately the reigns are off. In saying that I'll keep trying.
                    Gassho
                    Onka
                    st
                    穏 On (Calm)
                    火 Ka (Fires)
                    They/She.

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                    • Seikan
                      Member
                      • Apr 2020
                      • 710

                      #70
                      Agreed. I'm in full favor of continuing the practice as long as we can all agree that there will be valid exceptions like the aforementioned book discussions.

                      Gassho,
                      Rob

                      -st-


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                      聖簡 Seikan (Sacred Simplicity)

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                      • Jundo
                        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 41571

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Risho
                        I like it - but regardless of my preference - we need to do a better job of trying to adhere to this; I think the exception would be with the book club lol

                        Gassho

                        Rish
                        -stlah
                        Yes, let's make an exception for the book club.

                        Would our book club leaders (Jakuden, Geika, Byokan and Shoka) feel free to announce there that the book club is unbound!

                        Gassho, Jundo

                        STLah
                        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                        • Kyoshin
                          Member
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 308

                          #72
                          I love the 3 sentences. Even when I go over the limit, it really makes me think carefully about what I say.

                          Gassho
                          Kyōshin
                          Satlah

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                          • Meitou
                            Member
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 1656

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Kyoshin
                            I love the 3 sentences. Even when I go over the limit, it really makes me think carefully about what I say.

                            Gassho
                            Kyōshin
                            Satlah

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                            This is exactly how I feel too ; further than thinking about how I say something, I also question my motives for posting - what am I contributing, is it necessary to the bigger picture, is it just more noise?
                            A great ego checker and I'm glad to see it has so much support.
                            Gassho
                            Meitou
                            Sattoday lah
                            命 Mei - life
                            島 Tou - island

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                            • Risho
                              Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 3178

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Meitou
                              This is exactly how I feel too ; further than thinking about how I say something, I also question my motives for posting - what am I contributing, is it necessary to the bigger picture, is it just more noise?
                              A great ego checker and I'm glad to see it has so much support.
                              Gassho
                              Meitou
                              Sattoday lah
                              absolutely! I have a big ego and really need this to help me do exactly what you are saying; is it helpful or am i just being argumentative or self aggrandizing both of which I am a master practitioner at lol

                              gassho

                              rish
                              -stlah
                              Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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                              • Tai Shi
                                Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 3497

                                #75
                                If I understood half of Dr Heine's Dharma talk, I would be quite the scholar, and apparently there are several people in our Zendo who unserstand more than half of this talk. I believe we have several Buddhist scholars in our midsts who have taken vows well beyond me.
                                Tai Shi
                                sat/ lah
                                Gassho
                                Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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