Hogen's Dharma Transmission

[Jakuden]

Hogen's Dharma Transmission

Hello,

Distinction IS good fun.


Gassho
Myosha
sat today

Yes it is indeed, which is OK. It's what our physical bodies are built for. I intend to enjoy my French Dark Roast coffee black instead of sweet, Beatles Rubber Soul better than the White Album, and sniffling through Hogen's emotional words of thanks to his Sangha. That is Jakuden's relative truth.

Gassho
Jakuden
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*or maybe it's really Abbey Road. Or Let It Be. Or.... ok bad example

[Myosha]

Yes it is indeed, which is OK. It's what our physical bodies are built for. I intend to enjoy my French Dark Roast coffee black instead of sweet, Beatles Rubber Soul better than the White Album, and sniffling through Hogen's emotional words of thanks to his Sangha. That is Jakuden's relative truth.

Gassho
Jakuden
SatToday

Hey J,

There's THE Sangha. There's THE practice. Feelings (for better, or worse) have nothing to do with dharma.

Hugging all.

Can't pose.


Gassho
Myosha
sat today

[Jakuden]

Hey J,

There's THE Sangha. There's THE practice. Feelings (for better, or worse) have nothing to do with dharma.

Hugging all.

Can't pose.


Gassho
Myosha
sat today

Now who's making distinctions!? [emoji7][emoji8]

Gassho
Jakuden
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[Jishin]

No, it's not that, it's this :P

Here is Jundo's Sutra:

No relative, no end to relative;
No absolute,
No cessation of absolute;
No dangerously nihilistic, nor cause or end to dangerously nihilistic;
No path, no wisdom and no gain.
No gain – thus Boddhisattvas live this Prajna Paramita
With no hindrance of mind –
No hindrance therefore no fear.
Far beyond all delusion, Nirvana is already here.
All past, present and future Buddhas
Live this Prajna Paramita
And realize supreme and complete enlightenment.
Therefore know that Prajna Paramita
Is the sacred mantra, the luminous mantra,
the supreme mantra, the incomparable mantra
by which all suffering is clear.
This is no other than Truth.
Therefore set forth the Prajna Paramita mantra.
Set forth this mantra and proclaim:

Gate! Gate!
Paragate!
Parasamgate!
Bodhi! Svaha!

Gassho,

Risho
-sattoday

PS had to do a little zen humor; I love the koans that use this pattern. Is it A? No, it's A!

Wrong. Believe your eyes and ears 100% then you have truth. Thus it's not A, it's A!



Gassho, Jishin, ST

[Kaishin]

gettin smelly in here

-st

[Myosha]

Now who's making distinctions!? [emoji7][emoji8]

Gassho
Jakuden
SatToday

Hello,

Only occasion being pulled over, while driving college professors (at the speed limit) in a winter ice storm, the officer inquired, "Where's the fire?"

Unmitigated reply, "In your eyes, trooper." After laughing he said,

"Shut up, slow down and don't kill the passengers."

Learned a lesson. And, very much, appreciate yours.


Gassho
Myosha
sat today

[Amelia]

It is, isn't it, Kaishin?

Gassho, sat today

[Jakuden]

My zen don't stink. [emoji13]

What's a little dharma combat amongst friends

Love you all ❤️️❤️️❤️️
Gassho
Jakuden
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[Kyosei]

Yes it is indeed, which is OK. It's what our physical bodies are built for. I intend to enjoy my French Dark Roast coffee black instead of sweet, Beatles Rubber Soul better than the White Album, and sniffling through Hogen's emotional words of thanks to his Sangha. That is Jakuden's relative truth.

Gassho
Jakuden
SatToday


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*or maybe it's really Abbey Road. Or Let It Be. Or.... ok bad example

Haha! I knew you like the Beatles! [emoji14]

Gassho

Marcos

#offtopic

#SatToday

#AhhhLookAtAllTheLonelyPeople

[Jundo]

Thank you for a lovely talk.

I am going to disagree with him a bit on the topic of Dharma Transmission to lay folks in Soto. It is true that it was not so common, because most folks engaged in serious Zen Training were Ordained Folks (until modern times, anyway, when opportunities for Practice have become more available to lay folks), so there have not been many cases of Dharma Transmission to lay folks. But our most famous Sixth Ancestor, Hui-Neng, was a lay person when receiving Dharma Transmission.

It is not so common in Japan, because so connected to church bureaucracy and temple inheritance, but there have been cases. The history of Soto Zen in Medieval japan relates that Meihō (Keizan's disciple) may have initiated a lay disciple who then taught Zen to other laymen. Certainly, in modern Soto lines in the West, there have been several cases of Dharma Transmission to Lay persons.

Nishijima Roshi offered Dharma Transmission to Ordained or Lay, without making much of a distinction. In fact, in the case of Brad and me and a few others, he only properly Ordained us because he thought such wide thinking would not be understood in the West and we would not be properly understood as teachers if it was not made to fit the mold. He thought the whole thing poppycock. You can read more about that here ...

Eight Ways GUDO WAFU NISHIJIMA Will Help Change ZEN BUDDHISM
1 – STEPPING THROUGH THE TRADITIONAL FOURFOLD CATEGORIES OF PRIEST & LAY, MALE & FEMALE

http://sweepingzen.com/eight-ways-gudo-wafu-nishijima-will-help-change-zen-buddhism/

Anyway, small point ... lovely lovely talk.

Gassho, Jundo

SatToday

[Jakuden]

Ah I was hoping you would comment Jundo, thank you! I was thinking of the Sixth Ancestor. Ultimately, Shugen acknowledged this was becoming the way of the future in the talk. And I was curious about Gudo Wafu Nishijima's role, since obviously he gave dharma transmission to you and Brad. He was so forward thinking. It may be poppycock, But it does give one an idea whether one is learning from someone who really knows what they are talking about or not!
Gassho
Jakuden
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[Jundo]

Just a minor, very technical point of interpretation.

Gassho, J

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[Jyukatsu]

This is a very interesting article, Jundo, thank you
Gassho,
Marina
sat today

[FaithMoon]

An important lay teacher of Maezumi Roshi and Bernie Glassman was Koryū Osaka. Maezumi received inka from Koryū Osaka in 1973.



Faith-Moon
st

[Jakuden]

An important lay teacher of Maezumi Roshi and Bernie Glassman was Koryū Osaka. Maezumi received inka from Koryū Osaka in 1973.

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Faith-Moon
st

Is inka dharma transmission?

I happened to listen to an old Daido Loori audiobook that Kokuu put me onto tonight... it was about a Koan, but he spent a good chunk of it advocating lay practice and even predicting online Dokusan (not sure when it was recorded) Some of the things he said about bringing the Dharma to those unable to attend a Monastery could have come straight from Jundo.

Gassho
Jakuden
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