Kesa OKESA, it is about time!

[Shohei]

Re: Kesa OKESA, it is about time!

Luis!
Those are absolutely wonderful!!

Gassho
Shohei

[Dosho]

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What Shohei said...very nice work!

[Jinyu]

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Thank you folks ops:

Luis

[Taigu]

Re: Kesa OKESA, it is about time!

Great work, Luis and very precieous advice.

gassho

Taigu

[Jinyu]

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Thank you Taigu :roll:

By the way I was asking myself, if a new topic we'll be open for our rakusu sewing for Jukai? or maybe it's going to happend in this one, at the same time than the kesa sewing?

Gassho,

Luis

[Dosho]

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Hi Luis,

If Jundo does things the same way as last year, everything will be in the forum area called "Jukai, Precepts Study, & Rakusu Sewing". I believe those emplty thread titles at the top are exactly where those three things will go for this year's activities.

Gassho,
Dosho

[Taigu]

Re: Kesa OKESA, it is about time!

hi Luis,

Yes Jundo is about to open a thread about rakusu sewing. I will be reading it every day and answer the best I can. Everyone is invited to give a hand, especially the one that have experience in the field... For the kesa journey, I am planning to record videos next summer but nothing stops you to start it following the very basic yet precise instructions that I left on line on the nyoho e blog http://nyohoekesa.blogspot.com/
Your rakusu sewing is already very beautiful. Why not starting a kesa?

gassho


Taigu

[Jundo]

Re: Kesa OKESA, it is about time!

hi Luis,

Yes Jundo is about to open a thread about rakusu sewing. I will be reading it every day and answer the best I can.
gassho


Taigu

Hi,

I think we will get the whole ball of wax rolling ... Precepts study, Rakusu sewing, from about the weekend of next week, September 18th abouts.

Rev. Taigu, does that work for you? Everyone?

By the way, Taigu will be visiting Treeleaf Tsukuba that weekend (coming up from Osaka), so maybe we can have a short "Zazenkai" that weekend led by Taigu to commemorate the start of Jukai.

Gassho, Jundo

[Tobiishi]

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gassho...

superb! I look forward to it...

gassho
tobiishi

[Jinyu]

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Hi everyone!

Thank you Dosho! It's true that with a title like "Jukai, Precepts Study, & Rakusu Sewing" it could include rakusu sewing for Jukai... sometimes I'm a bit absent minded :roll:

...Jundo is about to open a thread about rakusu sewing. I will be reading it every day and answer the best I can.
Taigu

I think we will get the whole ball of wax rolling ... Precepts study, Rakusu sewing, from about the weekend of next week, September 18th abouts.
...so maybe we can have a short "Zazenkai" that weekend led by Taigu to commemorate the start of Jukai.

Gassho, Jundo

Cool! :wink: It's good to see all these things are very near! :twisted:
I'll be very happy to participate to precepts study and rakusu sewing! (like almost everyone in the sangha!!!) It's good to see this big adventure we are living together "follow his path", Thank you Jundo and Taigu for all the time and work you give!!!

Of course I'll be glad to help if I can in the rakusu sewing, and I'll look closely to your blog Taigu! But I don't think I'll begin a kesa (at least not now :mrgreen: ). For the moment, if I start a new sewing work, I think it'll be another rakusu, so I'll be able to share it with the other folks going to Jukai!

And the idea of a Zazenkai with Taigu to start Jukai seem a very good idea to me!

Gassho to you folks!

Luis

[Kevin]

Re: Kesa OKESA, it is about time!

When you sew a rakusu, should it always be in conjunction with a Jukai ceremony? If not, what do you use for the silk?

Gassho,

Kevin

[Taigu]

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Hi Kevin,

A rakusu should always be given by a teacher but not necesseraly during a Jukai ceremony ( although it often happens). In other words, the rakusu or the kesa should always be given by somebody else ( in theory), this means than one cannot certify oneself, that only another Buddha can certify the Buddha we are.

gassho

Taigu

[Jundo]

Re: Kesa OKESA, it is about time!

Hi Kevin,

A rakusu should always be given by a teacher but not necesseraly during a Jukai ceremony ( although it often happens). In other words, the rakusu or the kesa should always be given by somebody else ( in theory), this means than one cannot certify oneself, that only another Buddha can certify the Buddha we are.

gassho

Taigu

Hi Taigu,

Hmmm. Interesting.

Taigu, what did you have in mind? I would have thought it would be given almost always with a Jukai or with an ordination (Tokudo), both of which are very similar and involve the Precepts. (In the old days, they did not even have Tokudo as such ... Buddha would just say "arise, Monk" and you were a monk. Still, they were undertaking the Precepts as soon as there were Precepts invented).

You mean that someone might theoretically receive a Kesa in some way without the Precepts?

Gassho, J

[Taigu]

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Hi everybody,

As far as I know, in order to receive your first kesa, you receive the precepts.When you are given the precepts, the kesa is given to you. If you receive another one, later, it could be done during a jukai, or more informaly, on a one to one basis, in the teacher's room, wherever. But, indeed, receiving the kesa and jukai go together.


I hope this helps


gassho

Taigu

[Dosho]

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Hi Taigu,

As part of my Ango commitments I posted that I would like to finish my kesa by the time of this year's jukai ceremony. Would that be a proper time to "receive" the kesa from either you or Jundo?

Gassho,
Dosho