How to talk about people doing awful things while not violating the precepts?

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  • Ishin
    Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 1359

    #31
    Facebook arguments
    lone cook stirs an empty pot
    No guests No food shared

    Gassho
    Ishin
    Sat Today LAH
    Grateful for your practice

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    • Jakuden
      Member
      • Jun 2015
      • 6141

      #32
      Originally posted by Ishin
      Facebook arguments
      lone cook stirs an empty pot
      No guests No food shared

      Gassho
      Ishin
      Sat Today LAH
      [emoji120]


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      • Ekai
        Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 672

        #33
        I stay away from any arguing on Facebook. It's not worth it in the end and causes more distress. I have no problem with people from both sides have a civil discussion however. It's how we learn other people's perspectives and opinions... as long as the conversation holds no judgement or negativity. But that's difficult to do which makes good practice. Learning to talk to someone who disagrees with you without judgement, anger or resentment is good practice to listen without attachment or desire to change them. I find these discussions are much better in person since you can empathize with them in a deeper way. But for me on Facebook, I try to keep things positive and inspirational.

        Gassho,
        Ekai

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        • Jishin
          Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 4821

          #34
          Hi,

          Arguing is just communication.

          Lawyers get into brawls in the court room then go out for drinks afterwards.

          Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

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          • Troy
            Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 1318

            #35
            My dad and I have different political beliefs. We use to argue about it, but it never got us any where. I am still liberal and he is still conservative. I choose not to engage him anymore and just enjoy his company. He does the same. I like it better that way.

            Sat2day

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            • Shokai
              Dharma Transmitted Priest
              • Mar 2009
              • 6399

              #36
              Beautiful

              gassho, Shokai

              sat/LAH
              合掌,生開
              gassho, Shokai

              仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

              "Open to life in a benevolent way"

              https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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              • Anka
                Member
                • Mar 2017
                • 202

                #37
                Originally posted by Troy
                My dad and I have different political beliefs. We use to argue about it, but it never got us any where. I am still liberal and he is still conservative. I choose not to engage him anymore and just enjoy his company. He does the same. I like it better that way.

                Sat2day
                I am the same way with my mother. She is strict Christian...you know the "if you don't accept Jesus as your lord and savior you will go to hell" type. Still that didn't stop me from making a custom rosary for her as a birthday gift.
                Gassho friend
                Jim_sat_lah

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                • Troy
                  Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 1318

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Anka
                  I am the same way with my mother. She is strict Christian...you know the "if you don't accept Jesus as your lord and savior you will go to hell" type. Still that didn't stop me from making a custom rosary for her as a birthday gift.
                  Gassho friend
                  Jim_sat_lah

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                  That is wonderful Jim. [emoji3]


                  Sat2day

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                  • Joyo

                    #39
                    Hello Hoseki,

                    Two things I learned the hard way: You can't fix stupid, and let a fool be a fool. Silence and ignoring work very well also.

                    A lot of people are naively happy to remain judgmental and ignorant. I just get out of their way.

                    Gassho,
                    Joyo
                    sat today/lah

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                    • Jundo
                      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 40720

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Anka
                      I am the same way with my mother. She is strict Christian...you know the "if you don't accept Jesus as your lord and savior you will go to hell" type. Still that didn't stop me from making a custom rosary for her as a birthday gift.
                      Gassho friend
                      Jim_sat_lah

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                      Hi Jim,

                      You are aware that the Catholic Rosary and the Buddhist Juzu beads are likely of the same origin, one of those items that traveled up and down the Silk Road. The finger tips have so many nerves that the rubbing is especially hypnotic. Use of the Juzu is not a central Practice of Soto Zen, but is for many folks in Buddhism. Here is more than you ever needed to know ...



                      Gassho, J

                      SatTodayLAH
                      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                      • Anka
                        Member
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 202

                        #41
                        Jundo,

                        I wear a mala every day as a reminder of the vows and do utilize it when I chant. I actually got the idea from a co-worker who has made many gorgeous malas by hand.
                        That leads to something that has helped ease my unfortunate distaste for Christianity/Catholicism. Finally seeing that all major religions truly are different sides of the same die.

                        Thanks for the reading material!
                        Jim Sat lah

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