Split Thread: "Freedom of Art Expression" v. "No Politics" Rule at Treeleaf

[Jundo]

Sunset in West Texas just now.

Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

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Wait a second, is that a tiny Joe Biden I see way over on the right there, by that tree?

JUST KIDDIN, JUST KIDDIN! I simply could not resist to make a funny.

Gassho, J

STLah

[Jishin]

Wait a second, is that a tiny Joe Biden I see way over on the right there, by that tree?

JUST KIDDIN, JUST KIDDIN! I simply could not resist to make a funny. [emoji14]

Gassho, J

STLah

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[Jundo]

I am going to remove the more graphic holocaust photos, if that is okay. It is not because we Zen folks look away from anything ... not the sometime beauty nor sometime ugliness and violence of this world.

Rather, it is because I have had reports of it triggering a couple of folks prone to be sensitive to violence, and I don't wish to bring more suffering to them. We all know what is in the pictures. My warning at the top of the thread is not sufficient.

If there is objection for any reason, the pictures can be restored.

(Sorry to run long)

Gassho, Jundo

STLAH

[Onka]

Really large and damaging Spring storm just passed us. We just caught the edge thank goodness but still lost power thanks to powerlines coming down. We live in a sub-tropical climate where the warm seasons equal lots of beautiful storms.
This is an accidental shot of lightening in clouds that I captured when heading outside to literally close the shutters haha.
Maybe I'll call this shot "Mother Nature's Beautiful Accident" haha
Gassho
Onka
ST
*I acknowledge going over 3 sentences

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[Kokuu]

Just to say that the original visual media thread still exists for the posting of photos and such like.

https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showthread.php?17998-EXPRESSING-CREATIVITY-Media-Arts-photography-videography-photo-collage-etc

Gassho
Kokuu
-sattoday-

[Jishin]

I am going to remove the more graphic holocaust photos, if that is okay. It is not because we Zen folks look away from anything ... not the sometime beauty nor sometime ugliness and violence of this world.

Rather, it is because I have had reports of it triggering a couple of folks prone to be sensitive to violence, and I don't wish to bring more suffering to them. We all know what is in the pictures. My warning at the top of the thread is not sufficient.

If there is objection for any reason, the pictures can be restored.

(Sorry to run long)

Gassho, Jundo

STLAH

I agree with decreasing suffering. Here is a link to Holocaust info:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

Here is a couple of photos that related to our discussion that are of historical significance. One is a death certificate of my great grandfather from Dachau and the other documents are documents showing how my great grandmother and grandmother had their middle name changed to “Sara” for easier identification of authorities. Sara is a biblical name.

Gassho, Jishin, ST

[Inshin]

I agree with decreasing suffering. Here is a link to Holocaust info:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

Here is a couple of photos that related to our discussion that are of historical significance. One is a death certificate of my great grandfather from Dachau and the other documents are documents showing how my great grandmother and grandmother had their middle name changed to “Sara” for easier identification of authorities. Sara is a biblical name.

Gassho, Jishin, ST

These are so precious! I have a fork with swastika from nazi era that my grandfather was using in Auschwitz, thankfully he survived the ordeal.
Remembering our ancestors and the history is so important. However : what was your original face before your great great great great parents were born?

Gassho
Sat

[Jundo]

Let us have a world beyond us and them, now and then, birth and death.

To realize so, we must make a world beyond excess desire, anger and violence, mine and yours, races and groups.

Here is a Koan: What leaps past Jews and Nazis??

Gassho, J

STLah

[Jishin]

Here is a Koan: What leaps past Jews and Nazis??

Jundo!

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[Jishin]

These are so precious! I have a fork with swastika from nazi era that my grandfather was using in Auschwitz, thankfully he survived the ordeal.
Remembering our ancestors and the history is so important. However : what was your original face before your great great great great parents were born?

Gassho
Sat

Thank you Ania!

My mother was kind of moody and when angry she would call me Hitler. So I guess my original face could be Hitler. [emoji3]

Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

[Kotei]

Hello Jishin,

according to the death certificate, your great grandfather was living in Lüneburg, just 1 hour driving distance from my home.
My grandfather was a Nazi. Not directly involved with the deportations, but he supported the whole monstrousness.
The friendly old granddad, we often visited, partially turned into a monster, as I learned about the Nazi atrocities.
Quite a lesson for a young child.

Gassho,
Kotei sat/lah today.

I agree with decreasing suffering. Here is a link to Holocaust info:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

Here is a couple of photos that related to our discussion that are of historical significance. One is a death certificate of my great grandfather from Dachau and the other documents are documents showing how my great grandmother and grandmother had their middle name changed to “Sara” for easier identification of authorities. Sara is a biblical name.

Gassho, Jishin, ST

[Jishin]

Hello Jishin,

according to the death certificate, your great grandfather was living in Lüneburg, just 1 hour driving distance from my home.
My grandfather was a Nazi. Not directly involved with the deportations, but he supported the whole monstrousness.
The friendly old granddad, we often visited, partially turned into a monster, as I learned about the Nazi atrocities.
Quite a lesson for a young child.

Gassho,
Kotei sat/lah today.

I think anyone is capable of anything giving the right circumstances. I think people are born good but may commit bad acts.

I have worked as a prison psychiatrist and have had many patients who committed murder while they were mentally ill but were quite lovely when treated.

Your great grand dad was a good man, just victim of circumstances.

Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

[Kevin M]

Your great grand dad was a good man, just victim of circumstances.

Kevin
#STLAH


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[Jundo]

[Jishin]

Thanks to Kotei I was able to ascertain that my great grandfather did not die in Dachau. There was someone by the same name that did die in Dachau as listed above. My great grandparents escaped to Brazil just in time and this is him. His middle name was changed to Israel for easier identification by the Nazis.



Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__