Split Thread: "Freedom of Art Expression" v. "No Politics" Rule at Treeleaf

[Jishin]

WARNING TO THE SENSITIVE: THREAD CONTAINS SOME GRAPHIC VIOLENT IMAGES!

JUNDO NOTE: Hmmm. Our "no politics" request vs. Freedom in Art Expression. Hmmm.

Please see discussion below regarding why I am asking that we not post pictures of particular candidates or national flags here, in this Sangha, especially today, whether with dogs and families or not. I also try to explain more here: (A Time for Coming Together, Looking Past "Ours" and "Yours")

I edited the photo (save for the dog), but it can be restored here. But let's not divide into cats and dogs.

UPDATE: After sitting with this for a day, I have decided to remove all pictures of particular political candidates, national flags and like symbols.


Beautiful dog named Champ. dlt beauty dog.jpg

NOTE: PHOTO EDITED BY JUNDO TO REMOVE POLITICAL CANDIDATE AND HIS WIFE.

[Risho]

that is a beautiful dog!

gassho

risho
-stlah

[Tai Shi]

Nice people broad smiles, champion dog!
Gassho
sat: lah
Tai Shi


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[Jundo]

Please note my change to a post above, focusing on the dog and not the politician. Happy to discuss.

JUNDO NOTE: Hmmm. Our "no politics" request vs. Freedom in Art Expression. Hmmm.

Well, Treeleaf is not a democracy, so ... dogs not politicians please.

If ya don't like it, get a lawyer and take it to the Supreme Court!

Beautiful dog named Champ.

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Gassho, Jundo, Chief Art Critic

STLah

[Onka]

Champ is a beauty Jishin.
Growing up my family had 3 German Shepherds. Magnificent dogs. Old age took two of them, hip dysplasia eventually taking its toll on the third.
Gassho
Onka
Sat today

[Meitou]

Please note my change to a post above, focusing on the dog and not the politician. Happy to discuss.



Gassho, Jundo, Chief Art Critic

STLah

On a day when the entire world is talking about nothing else, this gets censored! There was no way anyone could reach out for support here during this really difficult time, and now there can't even be an acknowledgement of a world event that effects us all. What happened to all life being our temple?
I can't work with the art forum under these conditions, take me off admin please.
Meitou
Sattoday

[Onka]

On a day when the entire world is talking about nothing else, this gets censored! There was no way anyone could reach out for support here during this really difficult time, and now there can't even be an acknowledgement of a world event that effects us all. What happened to all life being our temple?
I can't work with the art forum under these conditions, take me off admin please.
Meitou
Sattoday

Gassho
Onka
ST

[Jishin]

Please note my change to a post above, focusing on the dog and not the politician. Happy to discuss.



Gassho, Jundo, Chief Art Critic

STLah

Sure. Let's discuss. I see a family portrait in the original with a beautiful German Shepherd dog as it's center piece. The photo also contains its owners who are happy to be posing with the dog. The photo is incomplete without the couple and no longer art (and a family portrait) without it. What do you see in the original that is objectionable?

Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

[Jundo]

On a day when the entire world is talking about nothing else, this gets censored! There was no way anyone could reach out for support here during this really difficult time, and now there can't even be an acknowledgement of a world event that effects us all. What happened to all life being our temple?
I can't work with the art forum under these conditions, take me off admin please.
Meitou
Sattoday

Let me say that we can have a celebration of peace, transition and healing, but not about one candidate winning.

Would that be okay?

Folks (me too) are free to celebrate or be sad in their hearts because their candidate won or lost.

There are 1000 other places in life where one can go to celebrate or mourn one's political desires, but this one place is beyond that. A college friend of mine is quite political on facebook, was asking people to post songs summing up their feelings, and I posted a video of a sarcastic, popular song to sum up my feelings (let's just say it expressed my own, personal political views and the particular candidates I like and dislike). Another friend wrote this ...

This is a time for us to seek a way to heal. ... But not by those on the right, nor by those on the left... but by everybody on everybody. We are tasked with a serious charge now: to find a way to bring everybody back to the table so that we can have a meaningful conversation about what pragmatic compromise might look like. We must beat our swords into plowshares.

If you still wish to be removed, that is fine, Meitou. Or, since the picture was of the Biden family, I can post a picture of the other candidate and a cute animal to balance this one. Either is fine, let me know.

(sorry for running long)

Gassho, J

STLah

[Cooperix]

On a day when the entire world is talking about nothing else, this gets censored! There was no way anyone could reach out for support here during this really difficult time, and now there can't even be an acknowledgement of a world event that effects us all. What happened to all life being our temple?
I can't work with the art forum under these conditions, take me off admin please.
Meitou
Sattoday

Thank you Meitou. Sadly and with a heavy heart I join you in this decision.

Gassho, Anne
~st~

[Jishin]

Champ is a beauty Jishin.
Growing up my family had 3 German Shepherds. Magnificent dogs. Old age took two of them, hip dysplasia eventually taking its toll on the third.
Gassho
Onka
Sat today

We have 3 German Shepherds and one comes to work with me everyday and sometimes serves as a therapy dog.

This is her:

JUNDO: Photo with Israeli Flag removed.

[Jundo]

Thank you, Jishin,

I removed the one photo with two dogs, and an Israeli flag. Or, if you wish to restore it, I can just go ahead and post a picture of a Palestinian flag and some pets. It is your choice completely.

If our hosts wish to leave the arts center, they are welcome. The place can just stay open without hosts.

Again, we must step beyond right and left, my people and your people, my country and your country ... etc. Let's not be like cats and dogs,

Gassho, Jundo

STLah

[Jishin]

NOTE: Please avoid posting national flags in this way. I will remove any further examples.

Thank you, Jishin,

I removed the one photo with two dogs, and an Israeli flag. Or, if you wish to restore it, I can just go ahead and post a picture of a Palestinian flag and some pets. It is your choice completely.

If our hosts wish to leave the arts center, they are welcome. The place can just stay open without hosts.

Again, we must step beyond right and left, my people and your people, my country and your country ... etc. Let's not be like cats and dogs,

Gassho, Jundo

STLah

Here are some recent family pictures. Please counter balance them with any that you feel necessary.

Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

NOTE: THREE PHOTOS REMOVED BY JUNDO DUE TO CENTRALLY FEATURED NATIONAL FLAGS

[Jishin]

Here is another nice family portrait.

[Jundo]

Don't you have any lovely family photos without national flags, or pictures of dogs without candidates?

I won't delete them, but I will ask you to reflect on why you feel this is necessary here, in this place of all places, where we try to look past flags and peoples a little? Is it different from three photos posted to intentionally highlight a "MAGA" (Make America Great Again) hat?

Gassho, Jundo

STLah