Split Thread: "Freedom of Art Expression" v. "No Politics" Rule at Treeleaf

[Jundo]

PS - If you wish to repost your photo of the Bidens, Jishin, and the first Israeli/American flag, please do, and maybe I was too rash to actually edit it. However, I would like to put a little note at the top of your post pointing people to this discussion.

[Jishin]

PS - If you wish to repost your photo of the Bidens, Jishin, and the first Israeli/American flag, please do, and maybe I was too rash to actually edit it. However, I would like to put a little note at the top of your post pointing people to this discussion.

Thank you. Here is the picture of Champ.

I had to look up the meaning of "MAGA" hat. It means make America great again. I did not know it had a name. I am not sure where you saw a reference to that.

Regarding Champ, he is a beautiful dog and a German Shepherd. It makes me feel good that other people have dogs, specially breeds that I like. It is even better when I like the owner.

Regarding symbolism, you can not not teach and you can not not learn. Some of my pictures are teaching tools. That's all.

Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__



NOTE: PHOTO EDITED BY JUNDO TO REMOVE POLITICAL CANDIDATE AND HIS WIFE.

[Jundo]

Thank you. Here is the picture of Champ.

I had to look up the meaning of "MAGA" hat. It means make America great again. I did not know it had a name. I am not sure where you saw a reference to that.

Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_America_Great_Again

[Jishin]

Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_America_Great_Again

I may me misunderstanding things. I know that it is something that Trump says and some people like it and some don't. I did not know that it had an acronym "MAGA". Did any of my pictures make mention of it?

Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

[Jundo]

I may me misunderstanding things. I know that it is something that Trump says and some people like it and some don't. I did not know that it had an acronym "MAGA". Did any of my pictures make mention of it?

Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

I believe that the pictures of national flags and a winning political candidate (with dogs and family or not) were in the same ballpark, and I would feel the same about MAGA photos too.

NOTE: PHOTO WITH EXAMPLE MAGA HAT I POSTED NOW REMOVED

I kind of think this is a little cute though, being a definite cat fanatic myself. NO DOGS ALLOWED in the Cohen house! LOCK EM UP (on a leash)! ...

NOTE: PHOTO WITH EXAMPLE MAGA HAT I POSTED NOW REMOVED

Gassho, J

STLah

[Jishin]

I believe that the pictures of national flags and a winning political candidate (with dogs and family or not) were in the same ballpark, and I would feel the same about MAGA photos too.

NOTE: PHOTO WITH EXAMPLE MAGA HAT I POSTED NOW REMOVED

I kind of think this is a little cute though, being a definite cat fanatic myself (NO DOGS ALLOWED in the Cohen house! ) ...

NOTE: PHOTO WITH EXAMPLE MAGA HAT I POSTED NOW REMOVED

Gassho, J

STLah

These pictures are great. Thank you for sharing.

I think you have a very difficult job in discerning benign from malignant photos from a political perspective and I would not want to be in your shoes.

Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

[Jundo]

These pictures are great. Thank you for sharing.

I think you have a very difficult job in discerning benign from malignant photos from a political perspective and I would not want to be in your shoes.

Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

No, it is not so hard. Please avoid pictures of candidates, political slogans and national flags.

Thank you.

Gassho, Jundo

STLah

[Jishin]

No, it is not so hard. Please avoid pictures of candidates, political slogans and national flags.

Thank you.

Gassho, Jundo

STLah

I have not posted any pictures of candidates, political slogans or national flags. I posted family portraits.

Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

[Jundo]

I have not posted any pictures of candidates, political slogans or national flags. I posted family portraits.

Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

Gee, I didn't know that you were Joe Biden's son, or that you only own Star of David clothing.

Gassho, J

STLah

[Jishin]

Gee, I didn't know that you were Joe Biden's son, or that you only own Star of David clothing.

Gassho, J

STLah

I wear Star of David and Buddha clothing everyday. I have even worn a Trump hat on occasion though I am not a republican. It's just a hat.

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Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

NOTE PICTURE OF HAT SUPPORTING POLITICAL CANDIDATE REMOVED. TATTOO IS HERE AS AN EXAMPLE.

[Jundo]

Well, no need to cover your tattoos. However, please no pictures of candidates, political slogans or national flags.

If you do, I will just take them down.

Gassho, Jundo

STLah

[Jishin]

Well, no need to cover your tattoos. However, please no pictures of candidates, political slogans or national flags.

If you do, I will just take them down.

Gassho, Jundo

STLah

The message you have conveyed is clear. Treeleaf is a place for practice. Leave things that are not conducive to practice such as politics at the door. That said, I don't see how anything I posted goes against this.

Regarding taking things down, I trust your judgement.

Gassho, Jishin, __/stlah\__

[Jundo]

[Kotei]

Hello.
I totally get, why party politics shouldn't have a place in a Buddhist Sangha.
I totally get that seeing just a family portrait in these pictures and not party politics is practice, too.
I also understand where and why Jundo draws the line.
I also get that our curators and guides see the need to defend the freedom of art and am very sad about their decision.

In the context of the Art Circle, I am also seeing the Social Sculpture in all this.
Jishin has a quite striking way of expression (In German there is the word 'plakativ' for it, literally meaning 'like a poster').
I am seeing it in his animal on black background pictures, zen postings, tattoos and also in this teaching.

Imho Art is not mainly about beauty, but about the viewer relating to the work.
So this work shows the tension, the pressure around this theme and reflects on the relation of Sangha, Art, Politics.

It is just a family portrait. And yet, it is not.
There is the need to defend the freedom of art. And yet, it is not?
I would love to continue practicing Art with you, Meitou and Anne.

Gassho,
Kotei sat/lah today.

[Tai Shi]

EXPRESSING CREATIVITY: Media Arts - photography, videography, photo collage, etc.

Sorry I don’t know the people above but the dog is a beautiful or should I say handsome specimen of a guard dog, German Shepherd bread. I understand that all dogs originated from a common simply wild brown dog and humans bred dogs of today.
Gassho
sat / lah
Tai Shi


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