Is the cosmic mudra important?

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  • Jishin
    Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 4821

    #16
    Originally posted by jake
    Black Elk
    Hi Jake,

    What is your attachment to Black Elk?

    Gassho, Jishin, Sat Today

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    • jake
      Member
      • Oct 2015
      • 23

      #17
      This seems a bit silly! I'm sharing his words because he's very beautiful and wise, and very similar to Zen!!!

      Namaste , Peace and Loving-kindness!!!!!!

      jake

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      • Jishin
        Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 4821

        #18


        Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

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        • Byokan
          Senior Priest-in-Training
          • Apr 2014
          • 4289

          #19
          Originally posted by jake
          (...) 'Everything an Indian does is in a circle, and that is because the power of the world always works in circles, and everything tries to be round.'

          'The sky is round, and I have heard that the earth is round like a ball, and so are all the stars. The wind, in its greatest power whirls. Birds make their nest in circles, for theirs is the same religion as ours. The sun comes forth and goes down again in a circle. The moon does the same and both are round. Even the seasons form a great circle in their changing, and always come back again to where they were.'(...)
          hehe, good 'ol round emptiness
          Love it! Thank you jake.

          Gassho
          Lisa
          sat today
          展道 渺寛 Tendō Byōkan
          Please take my words with a big grain of salt. I know nothing. Wisdom is only found in our whole-hearted practice together.

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          • Jinyo
            Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1957

            #20
            Serendipity - just been reading Emerson's essay on circles today

            St. Augustine described the nature of God as a circle whose centre was everywhere, and its circumference nowhere.


            Gassho

            Willow

            sat today

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 40706

              #21
              Originally posted by jake

              [COLOR=#252525][FONT=sans-serif]'The sky is round, and I have heard that the earth is round like a ball, and so are all the stars. The wind, in its greatest power whirls. Birds make their nest in circles, for theirs is the same religion as ours. The sun comes forth and goes down again in a circle. The moon does the same and both are round. Even the seasons form a great circle in their changing, and always come back again to where they were.'
              Lovely. Squares, triangles, flat tires, sharp nails and whatever this is are also always roundly roundlessly round.


              Dogen from the Genjo ...

              Enlightenment is like the moon reflected on the water. The moon does not get wet, nor is the water broken. Although its light is wide and great, the moon is reflected even in a puddle an inch wide. The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in dewdrops on the grass, or even in one drop of water. Enlightenment does not divide you, just as the moon does not break the water. You cannot hinder enlightenment, just as a drop of water does not hinder the moon in the sky. The depth of the drop is the height of the moon. Each reflection, however long or short its duration, manifests the vastness of the dewdrop, and realizes the limitlessness of the moonlight in the sky.

              When dharma does not fill your whole body and mind, you think it is already sufficient. When dharma fills your body and mind, you understand that something is missing. For example, when you sail out in a boat to the middle of an ocean where no land is in sight, and view the four directions, the ocean looks circular, and does not look any other way. But the ocean is neither round nor square; its features are infinite in variety. It is like a palace. It is like a jewel. It only looks circular as far as you can see at that time. All things are like this.

              Though there are many features in the dusty world and the world beyond conditions, you see and understand only what your eye of practice can reach. In order to learn the nature of the myriad things, you must know that although they may look round or square, the other features of oceans and mountains are infinite in variety; whole worlds are there. It is so not only around you, but also directly beneath your feet, or in a drop of water.
              Gassho, J

              SatToday on a Round Cushion
              Last edited by Jundo; 11-03-2015, 01:33 AM.
              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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              • TimF
                Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 174

                #22
                Originally posted by Kyonin
                Hi Sam,

                The mudra is quite useful for me and it's pretty comfortable too.

                I sit in half lotus, with my right over the left thigh. This puts my heel right in front of my navel and serves as a support for my hands in mudra. This way my shoulders never hurt. Where are you putting your hands?

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                And then the mudra is useful because I use it to gauge my attention and concentration. When I sit and cling to a though, my thumbs start to point up. When I am getting too comfortable and start to doze off, my thumbs relax and fall to the palm of my hand. So I let go, correct the thumbs and get back to zazen.

                Hope this helps.

                Gassho,

                Kyonin
                Just looking at that picture makes my legs cry out in protest.

                I'm with you in that my thumbs are a 'gauge' for me when I sit. Mine don't rise as yours do when clinging to a thought, but rather they push in tight, with one nail sliding under the other. When they come apart...well, let's just say that it usually means that if I were in a monastery I would need a whack on the back with a stick!

                Gassho,
                Tim

                Sat today
                "The moment has priority". ~ Bon Haeng

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                • Kakunen

                  #23
                  Is the cosmic mudra important?

                  Cosmic mudra is very important. That is a sign of our good Zazen.When we make cosmic mudra,lower body is stable,become comfort shoulder. I saw someone use corset for cosmic mudra.That is not good.Please sit naturally and respect our basic. Gassho.


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