Taigu's Dharma transmission

[Kokuu]

Hi all

I have known about the dharma transmission for several months so frankly consider it bad form that Jundo wasn't contacted to say that it would be happening. I have no bad feelings towards Taigu or any of the Blue Mountain sangha and congratulate both Myozan and Dainin on their dharma transmission. Not having thought of letting Jundo know saddens me, though. Keeping things small and personal is a legitimate choice but (as my mother often says) good manners cost nothing.

Gassho
Kokuu

[Myosha]

Hello,

Floating bodies from the AirAsia Flight QZ8501 crash, soap bubbles, Transmission: just-conditional objects, (and I A M a monkey's uncle).

Metta to all.


Gassho,
Myosha sat today

[Byokan]

Hi Jundo,

Thank you for answering. What you describe was my understanding too. I guess I hoped that we would be sister (brother) Sangha’s, with a special affinity and a tie not only in the past but in the present. It would seem that there’s not a lot of communication between the two teachers if the info about the ceremony was not shared. That makes me a little sad. Still I won’t presume anything about anyone’s motives and intentions. Everyone can speak for themselves.

My post was just to say, if people have questions and feelings about this, lets talk about it. I have a habit of pointing out elephants in the room. My intent is not to stir the pot or make trouble, just to open up the discussion and maybe clear the air.

I have confidence that things are unfolding as they should, and all will work out for the best.

Gassho
Lisa
sat today

[Jinyo]

Hi all

I have known about the dharma transmission for several months so frankly consider it bad form that Jundo wasn't contacted to say that it would be happening. I have no bad feelings towards Taigu or any of the Blue Mountain sangha and congratulate both Myozan and Dainin on their dharma transmission. Not having thought of letting Jundo know saddens me, though. Keeping things small and personal is a legitimate choice but (as my mother often says) good manners cost nothing.

Gassho
Kokuu

I agree Kokuu and it was where I was coming from. It just felt odd and a bit disrespectful that Jundo wasn't contacted, but he has taken the better part which I respect.

Taigu's teachings are on line thru the face book site and also the web site so I never anticipated that he would be teaching here at Tree Leaf. I will be following from time to time because I do appreciate his thoughts/commentaries on Dogen, etc. But I have my doubts that the two sangha's will be that closely connected because it feels there are fundamental differences in approach.

All of which is fine - and I wish The Blue Mountain Sangha the very best.

Gassho

Willow

[Jundo]

Hi Jundo,

Thank you for answering. What you describe was my understanding too. I guess I hoped that we would be sister (brother) Sangha’s, with a special affinity and a tie not only in the past but in the present. It would seem that there’s not a lot of communication between the two teachers if the info about the ceremony was not shared. That makes me a little sad. Still I won’t presume anything about anyone’s motives and intentions. Everyone can speak for themselves.

Those are precisely my (and, I believe, Taigu's) feelings on the intent. I do not believe that any lack of communication has been meant (not only about this little event, but in general), but perhaps communication has been a bit insufficient in some ways. However, if we are ever to realize that vision of "sister-brother Sanghas of special affinity and timeless ties of past present and future", then good communication and sharing is vital. It is not unlike the story of old "best friends" who, if the relationship and sharing of news is not kept up and nurtured, end up drifting away. That would be a shame, but we see it all the time with friendships, families and even related Buddhist Sangha not by intent (although sometimes that) but by just lack of attention!

And Myosha is simply wise and right: In the Grand Scheme of Things, this is all soap bubbles.

Gassho and a Peaceful New Year, Jundo

SatToday!

[Jishin]

I like Taigu's shinny bald head. It looks just like mine.

Gassho, Jishin, _/st\_

[Taigu]

Hi everybody and ...happy new year!

About the lack of communication...it is true to a certain extent and Lisa nailed it: we are a bunch of super busy individuals trying to get it right and organized. On a personal touch, I had many job difficulties and a very difficult and quite serious health situation to deal with with that took away a lot of my stamina and energy ( and most of my sleep for months). Now I am on the mend since I just started to receive proper medical treatment ( this medical condition went undetected for six months in Japan, and was just confirmed a few days ago) As I don't advertise stuff about my private life...
As far as I recall, I told Jundo months ago about this ceremony taking place in December 2014. He said it was too early and should be reconsidered and moved or if it was about to take place he wanted Myozan and myself to be out so Treeleaf would not associated with it. It even triggered he whole gentle decision to part and form two structures, I can dig the PM if you wish...
Daizan and a couple of other people were invited to stay only with Treeleaf as they haven t communicated for so long and clearly in their statement on line were showing a sensitivity to the new Treeleaf slyle.


That's it really. The ceremonies went very well. And were recorded ( at the exception of the secret ceremony). Soon, movies will be edited and shared.

I would like to thank the priests and most folks on Treeleaf for their kindness and understanding.

Take great care of yourself

Gassho

Taigu

[Yugen]

I'm glad to see you Taigu and thank you for the update. I'm sorry to hear about your health challenges and it's good that you are receiving the right treatment. Everyone here wishes for the great success of The Hermitage and hopes that our paths intersect frequently throughout our respective journeys. We owe much to you and that will always be in the forefront of our practice.

Best wishes and deep bows
Yugen


#sat2day

[shikantazen]

Jundo and Taigu please fight to your heart's content; I am loving these fights (between zen teachers)

Fellow students, it is none of our business. feel free to discuss but let us not take sides or add to the fire

Gassho,
Sam
Sat Today

[Jundo]

I'm glad to see you Taigu and thank you for the update. I'm sorry to hear about your health challenges and it's good that you are receiving the right treatment. Everyone here wishes for the great success of The Hermitage and hopes that our paths intersect frequently throughout our respective journeys. We owe much to you and that will always be in the forefront of our practice.

Best wishes and deep bows
Yugen


#sat2day

Exactly.

Gassho, Jundo

[Jundo]

Jundo and Taigu please fight to your heart's content; I am loving these fights (between zen teachers)

Fellow students, it is none of our business. feel free to discuss but let us not take sides or add to the fire

Gassho,
Sam
Sat Today

Hi Sam,

Why do you feel the need to say that?

Gassho, Jundo

SatToday!

[Myosha]

Hello,

Sam who?


Gassho,
Myosha sat today

[shikantazen]

Sam Metta

Jundo, good question. But I am not the important person here. My needs, if any, really don't matter.

Gassho,
Sam
Sat Today

[Daitetsu]

Dear Taigu,

I wish you a speedy recovery and all the best for you and the Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage!

Gassho,

Daitetsu

#sat2day

[Mp]

Hello and Happy New Year ... Wonderful to see you Taigu and thank you for touching base to let us know you are OK. I too am sorry to heat about your health challenges, but am happy to know you are doing well. =)

All the best to you, your family, and Blue Mountain. =)

Gassho
Shingen

Just about to sit