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  • Shinzan
    Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 338

    #16
    Thanks, Jundo. This thread has been really helpful. Part of the "Ploughing Clouds" poem by Dogen that you posted last winter.
    _/\_ Shinzan

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    • Steven
      Member
      • Sep 2013
      • 114

      #17
      Jundo, you are quite the word-smith.

      Deep bows,
      Steven

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      • Jundo
        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
        • Apr 2006
        • 40811

        #18
        Originally posted by walter
        Thanks Jundo.

        As I read here some folks did practice with koans, and also read from several Soto Teachers speaking about koans I wasn't sure it was quite a different thing.
        After reading "Taking the path of zen" I somehow got the idea of MU-ing, although I know Aitken Roshi was more a Rinzai teacher.

        I will keep practising shikantaza, I don't need to add more confusion to my already troubled zafu

        I am happy with this and prefer not to keep looking in a lot of directions, I have so much ahead to learn about this "just sitting"


        BTW, I had a quick look at "Three Pillars of Zen" and left it for later.


        Gassho,
        Walter.
        I am slowly making my way through the "Book of Mu", and many of the essays are very hard hitting ... pouring all oneself into MU, as if a hot iron ball lodged in one's throat.

        And then I came across this wonderful essay by the editor himself, James Ford, that shows the softer way to allow MU to pour. Wonderful, and I believe shows James Ford's Soto flavor even in taking up a Koan (he is from a mixed Rinzai-Soto Lineage, which he combines with his simultaneous role as a Universal Unitarian Minister). I wrote him ...

        Just a cool breeze that knocks down walls and levels mountains. Thank you.

        The title of the essay says it all ...

        On the Utter, Complete, Total Ordinariness of Mu

        You can read it here ...

        The word "mu" is one ancient Zen teacher's response to the earnest question of whether even a dog has "buddha nature". Discovering for ourselves the meaning of the master's response is the urgent work of each of us who yearns to be free and at peace. "Practicing Mu" is synonymous with practicing Zen, "sitting with Mu" is an apt description for all Zen meditation, and it is said that all the thousands and thousands of koans in the Zen tradition are just further elaborations of Mu. This watershed volume brings together over forty teachers, ancient and modern masters from across centuries and schools, to illuminate and clarify the essential matter: the question of how to be most truly ourselves. Includes writings from: Dogen, Hakuin, Dahui, Thich Thien-An Zenkei Shibayama, Seung Sahn, Taizan Maezumi, Sheng Yen Philip Kapleau, Robert Aitken, Jan Chozen Bays, Shodo Harada Grace Schireson, John Daido Loori, John Tarrant Barry Magid, Joan Sutherland, and many more!


        Gassho, Jundo
        Last edited by Jundo; 10-12-2014, 12:08 PM.
        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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        • Daiyo
          Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 819

          #19
          Thank you very much Jundo.

          I'll read it today or tomorrow.
          Gassho,Walter

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          • Myosha
            Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 2974

            #20
            Hello,

            Thank you for the link.


            Gassho,
            Myosha
            "Recognize suffering, remove suffering." - Shakyamuni Buddha when asked, "Uhm . . .what?"

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            • Meishin
              Member
              • May 2014
              • 843

              #21
              Originally posted by Jundo
              I am slowly making my way through the "Book of Mu", and many of the essays are very hard hitting ... pouring all oneself into MU, as if a hot iron ball lodged in one's throat.

              And then I came across this wonderful essay by the editor himself, James Ford, that shows the softer way to allow MU to pour. Wonderful, and I believe shows James Ford's Soto flavor even in taking up a Koan (he is from a mixed Rinzai-Soto Lineage, which he combines with his simultaneous role as a Universal Unitarian Minister). I wrote him ...

              Just a cool breeze that knocks down walls and levels mountains. Thank you.

              The title of the essay says it all ...

              On the Utter, Complete, Total Ordinariness of Mu
              Thank you Jundo for a link to this beautiful and simple commentary.

              Gassho
              John

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              • Meikyo
                Member
                • Jun 2014
                • 197

                #22
                Thanks everyone!

                Gassho
                ~ Please remember that I am very fallible.

                Gassho
                Meikyo

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                • Kyonin
                  Dharma Transmitted Priest
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 6748

                  #23
                  Thank you all for this thread.

                  Tons of Mu and full of stuff to think and non-think about.

                  Gassho,

                  Kyonin
                  Hondō Kyōnin
                  奔道 協忍

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                  • Nameless
                    Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 461

                    #24


                    Gassho, John

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                    • Daiyo
                      Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 819

                      #25
                      What a wonderful essay.
                      I've read it and I discovered that once I felt like the person rowing but while walking in the City surrounded by beatiful buildings, and the noise of the cars.
                      That moment, everything seemed to be perfect, in its place. Nothing to add or remove. All things were a perfect manifestation of life.
                      It lasted a few seconds and went away, but I've never forgotten the experience, that feeling of wonder.

                      Gasso,
                      Walter.
                      Gassho,Walter

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