Shikantaza or tranquilizing the ego?

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  • disastermouse
    #16
    Originally posted by Dosho
    You ask a lot of questions Chet.

    So do I.

    Sit.

    'nuff said.

    Gassho,
    Dosho
    I did sit. Asking isn't a problem. Expecting an answer that isn't 'just this' is a problem. But 'just this' isn't what the answer is either - not exactly.

    Gassho.

    Chet

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      • Jundo
        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
        • Apr 2006
        • 40351
        #17
        Chet, go sew. Everyone, go sew. Sit and sew.

        Gassho, J
        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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          • disastermouse
            #18
            Just sit. Shikantaza.

            But is it sitting and tranquilizing the questioner or sitting and being the questionless question?

            I specifically don't mean chasing discursive thought either.

            Chet

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              • Jundo
                Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                • Apr 2006
                • 40351
                #19
                Sew.

                Gassho, J
                ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                  • Mp
                    #20
                    Originally posted by Jundo
                    Sew.

                    Gassho, J
                    Yes ...

                    Gassho
                    Michael

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                      • disastermouse
                        #21
                        Originally posted by Jundo
                        Sew.

                        Gassho, J

                        Hmmm...Didn't think I'd have to reconsider Jukai, but this exchange makes me think I've made a mistake.

                        I'll have to let it sit with me a while.....so....

                        No sewing for now.

                        Chet
                        Last edited by Guest; 11-18-2012, 11:10 PM.

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                          • Jakudo
                            Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 251
                            #22
                            Don't get caught up in mental gymnastics Chet, it doesn't work. Just sit. It does work. The ego can convince us that there are any number of reasons not to sit, or sew stitch by stitch for that matter.
                            Gassho, Shawn.
                            Gassho, Shawn Jakudo Hinton
                            It all begins when we say, “I”. Everything that follows is illusion.
                            "Even to speak the word Buddha is dragging in the mud soaking wet; Even to say the word Zen is a total embarrassment."
                            寂道

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                              • disastermouse
                                #23
                                Originally posted by Shawn Hinton
                                Don't get caught up in mental gymnastics Chet, it doesn't work. Just sit. It does work. The ego can convince us that there are any number of reasons not to sit, or sew stitch by stitch for that matter.
                                Gassho, Shawn.
                                No doubt it works. So does anesthetic. Is that what is being suggested?

                                Chet

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                                  • Jundo
                                    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                                    • Apr 2006
                                    • 40351
                                    #24
                                    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                                      • disastermouse
                                        #25
                                        Ha! Just realized that none of this matters.

                                        Whaddayaknow?

                                        Chet

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                                          • Jundo
                                            Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                                            • Apr 2006
                                            • 40351
                                            #26
                                            ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                                              • Geika
                                                Treeleaf Unsui
                                                • Jan 2010
                                                • 4984
                                                #27
                                                All this tail chasing does no good.
                                                求道芸化 Kyūdō Geika
                                                I am just a priest-in-training, please do not take anything I say as a teaching.

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                                                  • disastermouse
                                                    #28
                                                    Originally posted by Amelia
                                                    All this tail chasing does no good.
                                                    Show me. Is it live or is it Memorex?

                                                    Chet

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                                                      • Jundo
                                                        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                                                        • Apr 2006
                                                        • 40351
                                                        #29
                                                        Originally posted by disastermouse
                                                        Oh my god, I know what he's talking about now! I didn't realize that the 'short' and 'long' pieces as shown on the rakusu were two pieces of cloth with the 'fold' between them as a bar - I thought there were THREE pieces of cloth there.

                                                        Chet

                                                        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                                                          • Dokan
                                                            Friend of Treeleaf
                                                            • Dec 2010
                                                            • 1222
                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Omoi Otoshi
                                                            the mirror that needs to be polished constantly. But originally, where can dust alight? The mirror is always pure. Egotistic thoughts are Buddha nature.

                                                            Thank you Pontus...spoke my heart.

                                                            Gassho,

                                                            Dokan

                                                            Ps - Haha Jundo...thanks for making me laugh out loud in the airplane...(Crazy guy in seat 4b).
                                                            Last edited by Dokan; 11-20-2012, 06:42 PM.
                                                            We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are.
                                                            ~Anaïs Nin

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