Shikantaza or tranquilizing the ego?

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  • Kyonin
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    Originally posted by Nindo
    You take Jukai when you've already arrived at Jukai.
    When it feels right in a visceral way.
    When there is no consideration.

    Yes, Jukai comes when it feels right.

    Thank you, Nindo.

    Gassho,

    Kyonin

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  • Nindo
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    Certainty? Who said certainty?

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  • disastermouse
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    Originally posted by Nindo
    You take Jukai when you've already arrived at Jukai.
    When it feels right in a visceral way.
    When there is no consideration.

    Right. Because certainty is the surest sign we're on the right path.

    Are you sure we're talking about the same religion?



    Chet

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  • Nindo
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    Originally posted by disastermouse
    Also reconsidering Jukai.
    You take Jukai when you've already arrived at Jukai.
    When it feels right in a visceral way.
    When there is no consideration.

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  • Dosho
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    Originally posted by disastermouse
    So I've been sitting with this for awhile....

    I've decided not to believe a single thought for a while...including this one.

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  • disastermouse
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    Originally posted by Shawn Hinton
    Don't get caught up in mental gymnastics Chet, it doesn't work. Just sit. It does work. The ego can convince us that there are any number of reasons not to sit, or sew stitch by stitch for that matter.
    Gassho, Shawn.
    So I've been sitting with this for awhile....

    I've decided not to believe a single thought for a while...including this one.

    Also reconsidering Jukai.

    *edited for clarity*

    Chet
    Last edited by Guest; 11-21-2012, 09:44 PM.

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  • Dokan
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    Originally posted by Omoi Otoshi
    the mirror that needs to be polished constantly. But originally, where can dust alight? The mirror is always pure. Egotistic thoughts are Buddha nature.

    Thank you Pontus...spoke my heart.

    Gassho,

    Dokan

    Ps - Haha Jundo...thanks for making me laugh out loud in the airplane...(Crazy guy in seat 4b).
    Last edited by Dokan; 11-20-2012, 06:42 PM.

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  • Jundo
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    Originally posted by disastermouse
    Oh my god, I know what he's talking about now! I didn't realize that the 'short' and 'long' pieces as shown on the rakusu were two pieces of cloth with the 'fold' between them as a bar - I thought there were THREE pieces of cloth there.

    Chet

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  • disastermouse
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    Originally posted by Amelia
    All this tail chasing does no good.
    Show me. Is it live or is it Memorex?

    Chet

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  • Amelia
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    All this tail chasing does no good.

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  • Jundo
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  • disastermouse
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    Ha! Just realized that none of this matters.

    Whaddayaknow?

    Chet

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  • Jundo
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  • disastermouse
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    Originally posted by Shawn Hinton
    Don't get caught up in mental gymnastics Chet, it doesn't work. Just sit. It does work. The ego can convince us that there are any number of reasons not to sit, or sew stitch by stitch for that matter.
    Gassho, Shawn.
    No doubt it works. So does anesthetic. Is that what is being suggested?

    Chet

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  • Jakudo
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    Don't get caught up in mental gymnastics Chet, it doesn't work. Just sit. It does work. The ego can convince us that there are any number of reasons not to sit, or sew stitch by stitch for that matter.
    Gassho, Shawn.

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