A karma tale, and a question

[RichardH]

After a long weekend with friends, I left my partner and son “up north” ( our son is attending camp for a week, and my partner is catching up with her friend) and headed back into town for work and an appointment. While driving south on #10 I pulled into a gas station in a quiet little hamlet.. After putting twenty bucks in the tank, I pulled out of the station to the nearby red light as I buckled up. A cop at the corner watching this did “the point” and pulled me in. Then he issued a $240 ticket for “driving without a seat belt on”. I said I just pulled out of the gas station and was buckling up. He said I should have buckled up before pulling out, and that...”this was about safety”....

I decided to track how this was absorbed by this infeebled brain, and so here is a description of my karmic profile over getting an “unfair” ticket...


My verbal response to the officer was that I just saw a guy pass five cars going up a hill, then pull in at the last minute before nailing oncoming traffic, and that he should have been there, if his job is about safety, ....and that this was just about bagging someone on a technically ..and it had no bearing on safety. OK, that was cocky, and not getting off on the right foot with the officer. The encounter ended with the him handing me the ticket and saying “Have a good week ..Sir “ ...and me saying “Have a good week ..Sir”

Then, driving away from the cop there was a righteous-anger-me-cramp that lasted for a few minutes. I knew I could not wish it away.. it was just like that. The righteous me-cramp came back a few times on the drive home...each time cycling through...

Later, when getting ready for bed I looked over at the ticket on the mantle.. and had another righteous cramp...... and felt it cycle through....

This morning while sitting there was no sign of it, just the usual milky stew of “what's going on” flowing by, and the occasion blue sky... all ok.

Then, later this morning when discussing the weekend,and among other things getting at hefty ticket, with a male relative.. he took-on the ticket part and flew into “Fight It!!!” mode.. he always must battle to the bitter end, even if it take years .. “It's the principle”. With this, the righteous me-cramp came back.. but also a clear awareness that I have no interest in pursuing anything. But, still, he juiced the cramp again for a minute.

After that.. no more cramp. And the thought of the ticket while typing this is emotionally neutral.... It's been absorbed and normalized.



My question is.... Would you have been serene and unmoved getting the ticket? Would you have been briefly indignant, then no more? Would there be a residue that takes a little while to cycle through?

What does letting go mean in this context? Should the way this body and mind works be more “Enlightened” ...so I remain unmoved regardless?

Thank you. Gassho

[Nenka]

I could be wrong, but I suspect it would be unnatural to feel serene and unmoved when getting a ticket like that. Trying to make yourself have a reaction other than what you're actually having seems like the old Something Extra to me, trying to put nice layers on your practice instead of just processing what you're processing. Stuff like that ticket would take me a little time to get over, but when I'd feel ready to move on, I'd be totally ready to move on. Does that make sense?

I had a situation a couple months ago when I had applied for a job at the place where I volunteer. It's a government job, so my application had to go through another place entirely, and they didn't even deem me qualified. Which was okay. What wasn't okay was that my supervisor knew that for weeks and didn't tell me. One morning she announced that the job was filled to everyone at the management meeting (I was not in it). About an hour later, the IT guy came down to ask me to give him all my passwords so he could set up the computer I was using for the new hire. THAT'S how I found out. (He totally thought I knew.) I stewed about that for a couple days, and let it go. I still volunteer there, but in a different division where they need somebody. Some employees are surprised I'm not still pissed. Maybe if I hadn't given it time, I would still be, who knows.

Anyway, as for the ticket . . . I always think of an unfair ticket as, well, look at all the times I deserved a ticket and DIDN'T get caught . . .

Gassho

Jen

[RichardH]

I could be wrong, but I suspect it would be unnatural to feel serene and unmoved when getting a ticket like that. Trying to make yourself have a reaction other than what you're actually having seems like the old Something Extra to me, trying to put nice layers on your practice instead of just processing what you're processing. Stuff like that ticket would take me a little time to get over, but when I'd feel ready to move on, I'd be totally ready to move on. Does that make sense?

I had a situation a couple months ago when I had applied for a job at the place where I volunteer. It's a government job, so my application had to go through another place entirely, and they didn't even deem me qualified. Which was okay. What wasn't okay was that my supervisor knew that for weeks and didn't tell me. One morning she announced that the job was filled to everyone at the management meeting (I was not in it). About an hour later, the IT guy came down to ask me to give him all my passwords so he could set up the computer I was using for the new hire. THAT'S how I found out. (He totally thought I knew.) I stewed about that for a couple days, and let it go. I still volunteer there, but in a different division where they need somebody. Some employees are surprised I'm not still pissed. Maybe if I hadn't given it time, I would still be, who knows.

Anyway, as for the ticket . . . I always think of an unfair ticket as, well, look at all the times I deserved a ticket and DIDN'T get caught . . .

Gassho

Jen

Hi Nenka... I agree, we have the reactions we have. That situation at work you describe would pinch, for sure. Some people might get carried off by indignity. It sounds like you let go when it was time to. Good for you. The thing that bites is the sense of injustice. Getting a ticket for speeding when you are speeding is fair and square. It is not nice, but it has no bite. Strangely, once a (now defunked) gallery made off with around $14000.00 in paintings, and because the sum was so huge, I could not be upset. It was just a write-off. There is no rhyme or reason to what pushes someone's buttons.... It is different for everyone, situational. ...but no one, surely, is beyond having buttons that can be pushed to some degree.

Thanks for your response. Gassho, kojip

[Jundo]

Here is a story I sometimes relate from my life, true story ...

For several years, my wife and I volunteered at a Hospice for the terminally ill. I was late to get to work there one morning, and took the toll road ... but did not have any small change (I think it was 25 cents), and only a large $20 bill. The woman in the toll booth could not take the large bill, refused to accept my promise to pay double on the return trip, gave me a hard time, filling out forms and blocking traffic too. I got a bit hot under the collar and told her and her rules off a bit. Jerky rules!

Not two hours later, I run into the same woman, crying next to her dying mother's bed in the hospice ... True story.

Everyone's life has many causes and conditions that brought them to that place. The fellow who cuts you off in traffic may be worried about losing his job, or the rude sales clerk may just be having a bad day. I try to keep that in mind now.

By the way, technically the officer was not wrong about driving with one hand while trying to do your belt with the other. Also, the town needs the money.

Gassho, J

[Risho]

I would've probably been peeved too. I'm good at justifying and arguing. But who knows? I'm just speculating. I'm just glad you are human.. "enlightened" is boring. Lol

[Myoku]

My question is.... Would you have been serene and unmoved getting the ticket? Would you have been briefly indignant, then no more? Would there be a residue that takes a little while to cycle through?

What does letting go mean in this context? Should the way this body and mind works be more “Enlightened” ...so I remain unmoved regardless?

Thank you. Gassho

Kojip,
I think what you are asking is rather if you did well, not so well, if you should have done better and if any of use would have been more "zen" in this situation etc etc ... I feel no need for this; you're ok and fine as you did, and whatever we imagine we would have done or not is not relevant for you really. You're doing well, no chance to do better. Just an impression from me, some interpretation, also pretty irrelevant
Gassho
Myoku

[Jundo]

Kojip,
I think what you are asking is rather if you did well, not so well, if you should
have done better and if any of use would have been more "zen" in this situation etc etc ... I feel no need for this; you're ok and fine as you did, and whatever we imagine we would have done or not is not relevant for you really. You're doing well, no chance to do better. Just an impression from me, some interpretation, also pretty irrelevant
Gassho
Myoku

Well, I would rather say that we are fine as we are, always already Buddha AND we can always do better... until we are perfect Buddha.

Buddha not Buddha ... makes sense to Zennies!

Gassho, Jundo

[RichardH]

Well, I would rather say that we are fine as we are, always already Buddha AND we can always do better... until we are perfect Buddha.

Buddha not Buddha ... makes sense to Zennies!

Gassho, Jundo

That makes sense to me, Jundo. Thank you.

Gassho, kojip


ed. Just one little note. The fine goes to the Ontario coffers, not the town where the highway infraction happened. I see it as an addition to provincial taxes.

[Rich]

Shit happens. Sometimes it costs us time and money. I don't pretend to not being attached to both. All I can do is keep practicing.

[Jundo]

Oh, and Buddha would always buckle up.

Gassho, J

[Rich]

Why wouldn't they let buddha ride in the ox cart?


Because he wouldn't buckle up.

[Myoku]

Well, I would rather say that we are fine as we are, always already Buddha AND we can always do better... until we are perfect Buddha.

Buddha not Buddha ... makes sense to Zennies!

Gassho, Jundo

Thank you Jundo
_()_
Myoku

[Kaishin]

Thanks for sharing. These days, I try not to let too much get to me. Usually I just remind myself, "Look, stop fuming over your silly little first-world problems. When you have to deal with some third-world problems, then we can get upset." Sometimes I just have to laugh at how people (myself included) who live comparatively luxurious lives can get so upset over the most petty things.

[Jundo]

[Jiken]

That's great! No ticket for Buddha

Daido