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  • alan.r
    Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 546

    #16
    Re: God and Zen

    I wonder why, when Johnson quoted something I wrote, it says he quoted Jefftos. Man, I think God's messing with me again.
    Shōmon

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    • JohnsonCM
      Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 549

      #17
      Re: God and Zen

      Originally posted by alan.r
      I wonder why, when Johnson quoted something I wrote, it says he quoted Jefftos. Man, I think God's messing with me again.
      Sorry to disappoint; just me hitting the button wrong....somehow
      Gassho,
      "Heitetsu"
      Christopher
      Sat today

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      • Kaishin
        Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 2322

        #18
        Re: God and Zen

        In looking at things, I have to believe in the existence of some form of “god”. And I mean study on things from Intelligent Design to the historicity of Jesus and such, all the way to the theory of the Big Bang and how the universe, matter and anti-matter were formed. I mean, how could everything in this world function in such complete synchronicity without a “plan” or “design” of some sort? There’s too much that is in complete and perfect harmony to say, “eh, simple chance.”
        Neil de Grasse Tyson, one of our greatest modern physicists, has a few things to say about this notion of intelligent design from a purely physical perspective!

        [youtube] [/youtube]

        Me, I don't really think about it anymore.
        Thanks,
        Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
        Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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        • alan.r
          Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 546

          #19
          Re: God and Zen

          Originally posted by JohnsonCM
          Originally posted by alan.r
          I wonder why, when Johnson quoted something I wrote, it says he quoted Jefftos. Man, I think God's messing with me again.
          Sorry to disappoint; just me hitting the button wrong....somehow
          Not at all. Just an attempt at a God joke. If he does exist, let's hope he's got better ones.
          Shōmon

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          • pinoybuddhist
            Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 462

            #20
            Re: God and Zen

            :lol:
            Originally posted by Kaishin
            Neil de Grasse Tyson, one of our greatest modern physicists, has a few things to say about this notion of intelligent design from a purely physical perspective!

            [youtube] [/youtube]

            Me, I don't really think about it anymore.

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            • pinoybuddhist
              Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 462

              #21
              Re: God and Zen

              When I first started out on this path, the concept of "God" was something I was unwilling to let go of. Then later, like a pendulum, I found myself in the other extreme of atheism. Now I am... I don't know. Personal God? A Supreme Being? A God that's synonymous with Universe/Tao/etc.? No God? Don't know. Can't really say I don't care, I just don't know. I am leaning towards God/Universe/Tao/Buddhanature and away from both Personal Supreme God and No GOd, but that's just me leaning. And for now, that's the best answer I can come up with: me leaning in one direction.

              Hmmm... I'd rather practice sitting than leaning.

              _/|_
              Raffy

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              • disastermouse

                #22
                Re: God and Zen

                Originally posted by Heisoku
                Put another way round one could also say that as long as we still choose, we do not wake up properly.
                So, red pills all round?

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                • pinoybuddhist
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 462

                  #23
                  Re: God and Zen

                  Originally posted by disastermouse
                  Originally posted by Heisoku
                  Put another way round one could also say that as long as we still choose, we do not wake up properly.
                  So, red pills all round?
                  "I know what you're thinking, 'cause right now I'm thinking the same thing. Actually, I've been thinking it ever since I got here: Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?"

                  Attached files

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                  • disastermouse

                    #24
                    Re: God and Zen

                    Don't believe in God, know God in this moment.

                    Don't disbelieve in God, disbelieve in self, from which issues all rigid and intractable views.

                    In zazen, we set aside firm views of this or that. Uncrossing our legs, we pick them back up, but less firmly than before.

                    The ego wants this issue solved, but it resists being solved. The more immediately pressing and experienced question, however, is 'Who or what exactly is asking this question?'

                    IMHO, no offense intended.

                    Chet

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                    • disastermouse

                      #25
                      Re: God and Zen

                      Originally posted by chugai
                      This thread is awash with concepts.

                      My dog barks some.

                      http://youtu.be/H9SrbPkpQHA[/video]]
                      Concepts are bad in and of themselves? Should we be Rinzai and alternate between shouts and 'Noble Silence'?

                      "Wanting to get rid of one and grab the other
                      is merely realizing a scene of stupidity."

                      Chet

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                      • Run_CMD
                        Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 31

                        #26
                        Re: God and Zen

                        GOD is DOG spelled backwards

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                        • alan.r
                          Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 546

                          #27
                          Re: God and Zen

                          Originally posted by chugai
                          This thread is awash with concepts.

                          My dog barks some.

                          http://youtu.be/H9SrbPkpQHA[/video]]
                          When dogs laugh some say they're barking.
                          Shōmon

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                          • Taigu
                            Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 2710

                            #28
                            Re: God and Zen

                            Buddha-thought
                            God-thought
                            are not true


                            Buddha without Buddha
                            God without God
                            a good start

                            neither God nor Buddha
                            much better

                            This
                            Suchness

                            nothing more
                            needed



                            gassho



                            T.

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                            • Taigu
                              Blue Mountain White Clouds Hermitage Priest
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 2710

                              #29
                              Re: God and Zen

                              come back to the cushion!

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                              • Hoyu
                                Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 2020

                                #30
                                Re: God and Zen

                                Only God can/would know if God exists or not. The rest of us.....we can only theorize!
                                Ho (Dharma)
                                Yu (Hot Water)

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