Online practice: Zendo etiquette

[Shokai]

Re: Online practice: Zendo etiquette

Thank you Jundo, good reasoning; have already instituted the change. 8)

[threethirty]

Re: Online practice: Zendo etiquette

This may sound like an odd question but I have it anyway... should everyone sit until the hangout creator has finished hers/his zazen or is it ok to keep your own time and bow out gracefully when your desired time has finished?

Or maybe a better question is... If you are not planning to sit for the whole time should you mute your mic so that your timer doesn't disrupt others?

[Jundo]

Re: Online practice: Zendo etiquette

This may sound like an odd question but I have it anyway... should everyone sit until the hangout creator has finished hers/his zazen or is it ok to keep your own time and bow out gracefully when your desired time has finished?

Or maybe a better question is... If you are not planning to sit for the whole time should you mute your mic so that your timer doesn't disrupt others?

I would say that ... when we sit the formal, weekly Zazenkai, we all sit together, rise together,walk Kinhin together, chant together.

However, for the hangout sittings ... sit you own sit, come and go freely on your own time. Yes, mute the sound so as not to be heard by others. Best to be seen but not heard.

Gassho, J

[Tb]

Re: Online practice: Zendo etiquette

Hi.

ok so far we have these ”guidelines”

Mute the sound so as not to be heard by others unless agreed upon otherwise by all participants.

Sit you own sit, come and go freely on your own time.

Do not sit Zazen facing directly toward the computer screen or camera, turn your back to the computer, or at least show a side profile, and face the wall instead.

Gassho when joining or leaving. If you're not facing the screen, or otherwise not being able to view the screen, it's optional to gassho back. ##Or is it always optional to gassho back?##

The person who opens the hangout (who is first) might ring a bell at start and end of the sit, IF (!) not otherwise agreed

So what do you think so far?

Mtfbwy
Fugen

[Ekai]

Re: Online practice: Zendo etiquette

Sounds good to me!

Gassho,
Ekai

[Marek]

Re: Online practice: Zendo etiquette

So far, so good :wink:

[Heisoku]

Re: Online practice: Zendo etiquette

Seems to be what is happening....so all is good. Thanks to those sitting in G+ it really does something to my practice...not sure what yet but it does!

[Myozan Kodo]

Re: Online practice: Zendo etiquette

Great Fugen. Do we need to post these somewhere stable?
Gassho
Myozan

[Tb]

Re: Online practice: Zendo etiquette

Hi.

Maybe we should have an post on "Netiquette" or something, and include this...

Mtfbwy
Fugen

[Myoku]

Re: Online practice: Zendo etiquette

Hello,

Mute the sound so as not to be heard by others unless agreed upon otherwise by all participants.

This is a tricky think in practice. In example: Since Ango Richard an I set daily and we have Mic on (if the childs in my house not just have a party), however, as we always sit at the same time meanwhile its quite a steady group with sometimes 4, 5 or more people sitting. But not all agreed formally and some new people might be astonished to hear my son shoutimg suddenly or Richards dog making some noise :-D

Maybe one can add some comment to the hangout, like:

"Zazen, please Mic muted"

if we want not be disturbed by someone else entering; personally I _not_ give much on the video BUT prefer the audio, as I dont watch the screen anyway and if you sit in the zendo you dont have your ears stuffed with something, you hear. Actually I feel a hangout witj everyone mute is pretty crippled and not much different from sitting without hangout ?
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Myoku

[Shujin]

Re: Online practice: Zendo etiquette

Hi Myoku -- you've made some good points in your post. For me, sometimes folks will join an evening sit with their mic on. It's not a big deal, until something starts going on in their landscape. I wind up hearing sounds out of their proper context; sometimes they're distorted, sometimes amplified to an extremely distracting level. I enjoy sitting with you & Shokai on the mornings that I drag myself out of bed. For y'all, I think the microphone arrangement works well. In other instances, it's not so great however. :?

gassho,
Shujin

[Myoku]

Re: Online practice: Zendo etiquette

Thank you Shujin,

this is an important facet, and I fully agree that some noises can be pretty disturbing and we should keep
them out of the zendo (g+ hangout). Its no problem to have that rarely, but usually its should be quite quiet
Due to a technical issue I once had a constant ringtone from a fellow sitter for 20 minutes :-D My way of
dealin with that is to inform the sitter (if I can figure who it is), that there might come some noises from
his system, because often people are not aware that what they broadcast is noisy or loud. A technical issue
is, that for me g+ always adjusts mic sensitivity to maximum (as it probably assumes I speak very gentle, while
in fact I dont speak at all). In any case, we shall always try to keep volume low and avoid disturbances.

I guess it boils down to the question: To allow everyone its preferred sitting, shall we go with Mic Off or shall
people who prefer silence adjust their computers volume ? I think the latter offers more flexibility.

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Myoku

[Marek]

Re: Online practice: Zendo etiquette

I guess it boils down to the question: To allow everyone its preferred sitting, shall we go with Mic Off or shall
people who prefer silence adjust their computers volume ? I think the latter offers more flexibility.

Sounds reasonable Myoku. It is all about common sense.

BTW, I looove so much sitting with you and Shokai and hear sounds from your sides (actually I even miss Richard' s clock ).


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