haiku writing as a way

[Jinyu]

Re: haiku writing as a way

and have no intention of being praised by the generations to come and I call my haiku stuff:junk.

Did Ryokan have this intention? Who knows?

Maybe your words will end in an old box in someone's attic. Maybe it will end in a library and people will tell silly stuff about the "the soul" of the artists and his "real goals"... as we can see with some great French poets.

Don't really matters,

birds don't care

:wink:

deep gassho,
Jinyu

[Nenka]

Re: haiku writing as a way

Hi guys,

Sweet powdered geisha
poses for the camera
birds don't care

Don't belong to any haiku circle, don't do haiku competition, don't even call myself a poet, and have no intention of being praised by the generations to come and I call my haiku stuff:junk.
So we are all part of the same universal non haiku circle, dead haiku poets circle...

Nice to meet you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

gassho


Taigu

In America, it truly does not matter if you write haiku or not. If you publish, or not. If anyone praises your work today and forgets you tomorrow. Poetry is already marginalized and the haiku world is truly a ghetto within. You go into it knowing that . . . but it is wonderful to participate and meet others from all over who do the same silly thing.

And to that end, here's to the circle!

Gassho

Jennifer

[Rich]

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After worrying about this and that
Gratefully returning to doing now
Watching wonderful waves
Eating bagel
Now can I help you?

[Rich]

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Sitting in vast emptiness
With nothing to do
Yet everything is doing
What is this?
Birds singing
Dog pacing
Motor humming

[michaeljc]

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gnarled, without protest,
from Tasman's insistent gales,
my old weeping-tree

[nealc]

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Don’t use special poetic words and reject words like plastic, telephone or can.

I like telephone and can. They are real-world words, everyday and concrete. If anyone can find a good haiku in them, great!

I cringe at stuff like heart, soul, ephemeral, gossamer. Oh, for the love of God, stay away from gossamer.

heart soul ephemeral gossamer
oh for the love of god stay .. away ..
from gossamer

:lol: couldn't resist

[disastermouse]

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I am currently preparing a worshop on writing haiku and I wrote the following notes that happen to convey exactly what I really want to say most of the time:

Please, try to avoid desk haiku. I often write haiku as I walk, work, lie down. Please, speak haiku, give them a voice, whisper them, shout them, spit them chew them. Haiku come from my experience of the world. I compose haiku not because I am a poet, or to make poetry, I don’t give a dam about poetry, I write haiku to be alive and present in this world. Not to live in my head and through my senses. To unfold my being-seing-perceiveng in all this. And meet what comes and goes. Death can take place anytime, haiku is like Hanami, to watch blossoms. I am going to die, and haiku writing haiku doing is a celebration of a fragile and floating existence, it is sheer gratitude. Gratitude. And gratitude again.

Don’t write too many words. Many haiku in English are too wordy. Cut. Keep it simple. You should be able to speak any haiku in a single short breath. Don’t pack poems with fancy words be careful with adjectives, bad writing is often over using adjectives. Don’t use special poetic words and reject words like plastic, telephone or can. Avoid likes and dislikes. In the haiku world, everything is precious, worth looking at and worthy of appreciation. Don’t be afraid of words and things. Call things by their name. Go for what is, what is real around and inside you. Go where you dance, go even where it hurts. Haiku is a tool of discovery and self inquiry. Pick up things unnoticed, left aside, pick up what people don’t even see or pay attention to. Pick up garbage and practice garbage arrangement. Celebrate the ordinary. In the simple activity of seeing, of being you will find love. Jizo or Kannon are not statues in fancy temples and museums but your very attention to the world, your activity in full bloom and the very people and things you meet everyday. This is the real magic. And it is available here and now. And it is now or never. Each second passes and won’t come back. You won’t be given a second go. There is only one. This one. Here and now.

gassho to all


Taigu

The only part of this that confused me was the part about avoiding words like plastic, telephone, and can. Can you explain that? Is it because they are modern words?

Chet

[Taigu]

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Hi Chet,

In the old school of haiku, rhythm, seasonal element, and all these old fashioned rules apply.
In modern Haiku, feel free, as you wish...In Japan, you have both schools. Many people think that Santoka's haiku are not haiku...
I use modern words like plastic, tarmac, fumes, can etc. because I write about what I witness and see around.

gassho

Taigu

[disastermouse]

Re: haiku writing as a way

Hi Chet,

In the old school of haiku, rhythm, seasonal element, and all these old fashioned rules apply.
In modern Haiku, feel free, as you wish...In Japan, you have both schools. Many people think that Santoka's haiku are not haiku...
I use modern words like plastic, tarmac, fumes, can etc. because I write about what I witness and see around.

gassho

Taigu

As did the old haiku masters.

Gassho!

Chet

[michaeljc]

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conceived in snow clouds
foetused on Himalayas
rivers chill my feet

[Kyonin]

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What a beautiful and sublime thread. I am very grateful for it.

Sound of rain
lonely man in thought
coffee

In Spanish:

El sonido de la lluvia
hombre solitario pensando
café

[joshbrown]

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I wish to avoid self-promotion, but I actually wrote a humorous book of haiku on "geeky" topics titled Fanboy Haiku

pm me if you want more info

[Hoyu]

Re: haiku writing as a way

I wish to avoid self-promotion, but I actually wrote a humorous book of haiku on "geeky" topics titled Fanboy Haiku

pm me if you want more info

Hi Josh,
Found and downloaded Fanboy Haiku on Kindle. Given the work you obviously put into it(240 Haiku) the price was a steal! I'll definitely have fun reading more!

Gassho,
John

[Hoyu]

Re: haiku writing as a way

Josh Brown Fanboy book
Downloaded if from Kindle
Only one dollar!

[joshbrown]

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wow! thank for the endorsement! 8)