Odd Dharma sadness...and gratitude...

[AlanLa]

Re: Odd Dharma sadness...and gratitude...

Don't worry, Al - it really wasn't you

:lol: That's funny, Chet, because I wasn't worried it was me at all. It's not me or you. If only it were that simple. We do rub each other the wrong way, and our values are very different, and I doubt we would ever hang out together in any place other than here online. Based on your GFY comments, however, I think I rub you harder than you rub me. I think you act like a real asshole sometimes, but I know you're not an asshole (like Jundo said above, you're not as bad as you might think you are, and I have taken worse from far worse than you), so I have learned that these "episodes" come and go, an example of impermanence in your/my/our life. As for how you rub me, I get concerned about you... and then I wonder if you are worth the concern because you're acting like an asshole. But I always decide you are, and that's why I wade back into this and other threads where we clash. So this makes me a group-tender? Interesting.

Speaking of interesting, I'll take your recommendation to act more selfish, bad, and inconsiderate as a way of balancing my life under advisement (anti-Kannon?). And on that note, allow me to say GFY Chet, and I mean that in the most concerned group-tending way :twisted: :roll: :lol:
AL

Oh wait, as for the bullshit sorry for/with argument, when Kannon hears the cries of the world, is she one with them or does she feel sorry for them? How does she express bodhisattva compassion? For what it's worth, I don't feel sorry for you in the least. Hey, was that selfish of me to say? :shock: Good for me, you think, right? But if I admit being concerned about you without feeling sorry for you, then where does that leave me? Could I be feeling compassion for you :? Nah, GFY with that! :P

OK, off to bed, no more button pushing tonight.

[disastermouse]

Re: Odd Dharma sadness...and gratitude...

I guess I got the feeling that you were someone concerned about the group because of your 'R-word' thread and because I have it in my mind (perhaps wrongly) that you step in when you think someone's causing someone else suffering.

You seem to be an advocate for people. I really didn't mean to offend you. Also, I would have no problem being around you outside the forum in the real world. The way you post sometimes rubs me the wrong way, but the same qualities probably make you an alright guy to hang out with.

Like I said, maybe I've got you all wrong. That certainly is a distinct possibility.

Am I an asshole? Yeah, probably - at least some of the time...and I can be pedantic, patronizing, and haughty. I'm also close-minded, stubborn, and careless.

Regardless, I don't actually wish anyone any ill will - even at my most asshole-ish.

My biggest problem is that I don't understand you or where you're coming from most of the time.

Chet

[AlanLa]

Re: Odd Dharma sadness...and gratitude...

I guess I got the feeling that you were someone concerned about the group because of your 'R-word' thread and because I have it in my mind (perhaps wrongly) that you step in when you think someone's causing someone else suffering.

You seem to be an advocate for people. I really didn't mean to offend you. Also, I would have no problem being around you outside the forum in the real world. The way you post sometimes rubs me the wrong way, but the same qualities probably make you an alright guy to hang out with.

Like I said, maybe I've got you all wrong. That certainly is a distinct possibility.

Am I an asshole? Yeah, probably - at least some of the time...and I can be pedantic, patronizing, and haughty. I'm also close-minded, stubborn, and careless.

Regardless, I don't actually wish anyone any ill will - even at my most asshole-ish.

My biggest problem is that I don't understand you or where you're coming from most of the time.

Chet

I am concerned about the group, but I don't think I rescue people from their suffering here, at least not knowingly.
I am an advocate for people, and I am not offended by anything you say, ever, even when I disapprove of it.
It's nice to know you would be willing to hang out with me. So now I have to be open minded enough to also say I would be willing to hang out with you. HMM, have your people call my people :lol:
I know you don't mean any ill will, even at your most asshole-ish, which is one of the reasons I am never offended by you.
You're trying, Chet, and I really appreciate that! You've grown a lot in your time here, and it's good to see.
And I think your recommendation about being more "bad" is fair and interesting enough to be its own thread so that others can ponder it also.
Take care, Chet