Question about Jukai and lay people

[Seiko]

I think confirmation is a foreign term for anyone that is not familiar with catholicism

Imho it is important for everyone to arrive at a personal view what Jukai or Shukke Tokudo means to them in their life

Hi Bion and Hi Kotei,
Thank you. It is fascinating how we all express this understanding and difference. I love how we in this wonderful Sangha have such individual understanding and at the same time share such unity. A strong connection with each other that is strengthened by exchange of opinions.

Gasshō
Seiko
stlah

[Bion]

Hi Bion,
Thank you. It is fascinating how we all express this understanding and difference. I love how we in this wonderful Sangha have such individual understanding and at the same time such unity. A strong connection with each other that is strengthened by exchange of opinions.

Gasshō
Seiko
stlah

It’s almost as if all we think and say is a product of specific conditions
Discussion is always good ( in moderate amounts haha )

Gassho sat

[Jundo]

I think of it as like circumcision ... Jewkai. But we use Manjushri's ... ManJewshri's flaming sword, which cuts all things into one!

Just kidding.

It is what it is. Let each person find the meaning in their own heart.

Gassho, J

stlah

[Bion]

I think of it as like circumcision ... Jewkai. But we use Manjushri's ... ManJewshri's flaming sword, which cuts all things into one!

Just kidding.

It is what it is. Let each person find the meaning in their own heart.

Gassho, J

stlah

Hahahaha that was a good one!

Gassho sat

[Ankai]

...I've got this awful image of a Bris with fire .. a flaming Mohel... 🔥🔯🔥

ST
-Ankai

[Rowan]

Greetings Paul,

In every zen buddhist sangha I have attended (all of them in USA), jukai is like baptism, it is a ceremony of sort of officially becoming a buddhist. But most important it is literally a ceremony of "receiving the precepts" which are guidelines and aspirations to living an ethical life. Being a buddhist does not preclude belonging to a religion. It does not involve a commitment to a particular teacher or lineage or sect. Of course it is not about worshiping Gautama Buddha. Mel Weitzman Roshi of Berkeley Zen Center wrote a wonderful talk about the first five precepts, saying that there is a proscriptive and prescriptive side to each precept - for example - the first precept - the proscriptive side is "do not kill", the prescriptive side is to "cherish life". my favorite versions of "do not steal" is "do not take that which is not freely given" - the freely part to me is very important as so often, in my sad and desperate state, I have taken advantage of people's kindness - not for money or things, but for physical assistance, an ear to listen, etc. So this is something I always need to watch out for.

thank you for your time,
rowan

[WorkerB]

I think of it as like circumcision ... Jewkai. But we use Manjushri's ... ManJewshri's flaming sword, which cuts all things into one!

Just kidding.

It is what it is. Let each person find the meaning in their own heart.

Gassho, J

stlah

Literally made me laugh out loud!

Gassho,
b.

st.

[Risho]

I think of it as like circumcision ... Jewkai. But we use Manjushri's ... ManJewshri's flaming sword, which cuts all things into one!

Just kidding.

It is what it is. Let each person find the meaning in their own heart.

Gassho, J

stlah

That was pretty danged good lol

gassho

risho
-stlah

[joshr]

I think of it as like circumcision ... Jewkai. But we use Manjushri's ... ManJewshri's flaming sword, which cuts all things into one!

Could somebody please pass the brain bleach?!

Gassho,
Joshua

Sat this morning