Kesa insights

[michaelw]

I ran across a reference to the nyoho-e Kesa that sparked some interest. As time spent in reconnaissance is never wasted, I searched around for more information. There is plenty of general ‘how to’ information available but the real gems I found right here in treeleaf.

https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showthread.php?6638-Kesa-OKESA-it-is-about-time%21

A lot of in-depth information on the practicalities and subtilties that make very interesting reading. A lot of the links no longer work but even so a good reminder that others have walked this path before and will continue to do so.

That in turn led me to

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5c03ced75ffd204418037b7a/t/5c530d9070a6ada6614a4885/1548946839249/Fukudenkai-Riggs.pdf

Especially interesting to read about the nyoho-e Kesa and the Sotoshu as there is some misleading information out there that this clarifies. Also the history of the Fukendenkai movement that I thought was just the name given to the act of sewing.

And for any fans of the weird and wonderful

https://terebess.hu/zen/szoto/riggs-elephant.pdf

I 'hung up my needle' when I finished my Rakusu but now I have an itch to start sewing again.
Sorry to run long.

Gassho
MichaelW

sat

[Kotei]

I'd love being helpful if you consider undertaking this task.

As you have taken Jukai with Treeleaf, you'd need to ask Jundo about it as a next step.
We're sewing the Nyoho-e Okesa and there are some helpful people and documents available on your way.
There are two Fukudenkai meetings per week going.

Gassho,
Kotei sat/lah today.

[Jundo]

I ran across a reference to the nyoho-e Kesa that sparked some interest. As time spent in reconnaissance is never wasted, I searched around for more information. There is plenty of general ‘how to’ information available but the real gems I found right here in treeleaf.

https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showthread.php?6638-Kesa-OKESA-it-is-about-time%21

A lot of in-depth information on the practicalities and subtilties that make very interesting reading. A lot of the links no longer work but even so a good reminder that others have walked this path before and will continue to do so.

That in turn led me to

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5c03ced75ffd204418037b7a/t/5c530d9070a6ada6614a4885/1548946839249/Fukudenkai-Riggs.pdf

Especially interesting to read about the nyoho-e Kesa and the Sotoshu as there is some misleading information out there that this clarifies. Also the history of the Fukendenkai movement that I thought was just the name given to the act of sewing.

And for any fans of the weird and wonderful

https://terebess.hu/zen/szoto/riggs-elephant.pdf

I 'hung up my needle' when I finished my Rakusu but now I have an itch to start sewing again.
Sorry to run long.

Gassho
MichaelW

sat

Michael, should you wish, you would be welcome to sew a Kesa. Or another Rakusu even. Or both.

Gassho, Jundo

stlah

[michaelw]

Gassho
MichaelW

sat

[Guest]

I've been considering sewing as a practice for a few years now so thanks for the links, lots of interesting information here. Whilst not a skilful seamster I can sew, used to sew badges onto my uniform once upon a time and have sewn various badges and other small objects, a kesa/rakusu would be a level up.

Since I've not undertaken jukai presumably this practice is off limits for the time being?

Sattday

Dan

[Bion]

I've been considering sewing as a practice for a few years now so thanks for the links, lots of interesting information here. Whilst not a skilful seamster I can sew, used to sew badges onto my uniform once upon a time and have sewn various badges and other small objects, a kesa/rakusu would be a level up.

Since I've not undertaken jukai presumably this practice is off limits for the time being?

Sattday

Dan

Same practice, just different scale! Starting with the rakusu and receiving the Precepts is the norm nowadays [emoji3526]

[emoji1374] Sat Today

[Kotei]

Hello Dan,

sewing and wearing the Okesa is connected to studying the precepts and committing to them as guidance for our lives and regular practice.
Jukai is the process of formally doing so and there is also the rakusu, the small kesa, sewn together during the preparation period.
There is a lot to be learned during the rakusu sewing, which is really good to know when starting with the much larger okesa project.

The next Jukai preparation period will start in the beginning of September, which is just around the corner.
You'd be very welcome to join in.

Gassho,
Kotei sat/lah today.

I've been considering sewing as a practice for a few years now so thanks for the links, lots of interesting information here. Whilst not a skilful seamster I can sew, used to sew badges onto my uniform once upon a time and have sewn various badges and other small objects, a kesa/rakusu would be a level up.

Since I've not undertaken jukai presumably this practice is off limits for the time being?

Sattday

Dan

[Guest]

Hello Dan,

sewing and wearing the Okesa is connected to studying the precepts and committing to them as guidance for our lives and regular practice.
Jukai is the process of formally doing so and there is also the rakusu, the small kesa, sewn together during the preparation period.
There is a lot to be learned during the rakusu sewing, which is really good to know when starting with the much larger okesa project.

The next Jukai preparation period will start in the beginning of September, which is just around the corner.
You'd be very welcome to join in.

Gassho,
Kotei sat/lah today.

Hi Kotei,

I'm certainly considering it as I've had the idea in mind for some time. I do have a lot coming up over the summer, house move, job etc, but assuming the dust is more or less settled by September it's something I'm drawn to.

Dan