Retuning to the ZZ' line: try vs just do

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  • Ankai
    Novice Priest-in-Training
    • Nov 2007
    • 1146

    #16
    I'm another one who, when I first began to sit, had to have silence. Everything had to be exactly right... It had to be quiet, the position of my cushion, the light of the candle, the type of incense...
    Over the years I've become content to simply sit in the correct posture and let the world go on around me while I just breathe and be.

    Sat today
    Karl
    Gassho!
    護道 安海


    -Godo Ankai

    I'm still just starting to learn. I'm not a teacher. Please don't take anything I say too seriously. I already take myself too seriously!

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    • Jundo
      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
      • Apr 2006
      • 44331

      #17
      It is time to post the perennial reminder that the difference between sweet "sounds" and "noise" is largely (not only) in one's judgement between one's two ears.


      I also remind folk of my recommendation to intentionally sit quite frequently in particularly noise, smell, sight disturbing places ... for the disturbance is likewise largely between the ears ...

      Zazen for Beginners (21) — A Quiet Room.

      Most days, we’d best sit Zazen in a quiet room, with little noise and few distractions. The reason is simply that a peaceful, still, quiet environment helps us allow the mind to become peaceful, still and quiet, with thoughts and emotions drifting away as the mind settles down.

      But once in awhile, maybe every couple of weeks or so, I recommend that you sit Zazen in a truly disturbing place.

      Today, I am sitting Zazen in one of the busiest, brightest, noisiest parts of downtown Tokyo — to make the point that the true quiet room is within us as much as out. In fact, if we always need a calm and tranquil environment in order to reach the balance, stillness, ease, and freedom of this practice, then I believe Zazen loses much of its power. It is right at the eye of the storm that one can know stillness, and in the middle of chaos that we can taste peace.

      So, for that reason, I hope everyone will sit, from time to time, in a truly disturbing, disagreeable, ugly, noisy, smelly, busy, or distracting place. In a stinking garbage dump, next to a construction site with jackhammers pounding, at an Ozzy Osbourne concert, in a game room, while packed in a crowded city bus or parked in a parking lot off a busy highway.

      We can drop all thoughts of beautiful or ugly, moving vs. still, noisy vs. silent, chaotic or peaceful .. and just sit as what remains
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      Following is our sitting today, in downtown Tokyo. Please join me sitting with some of the disturbance-non-disturbance in your own life.


      — A Quiet Room. Most days, we’d best sit Zazen in a quiet room, with little noise and few distractions. The reason is simply that a peaceful, still, quiet environment helps us allow the mind to become peaceful, still and quiet, with thoughts and emotions drifting away as the mind settles down. But once in awhile, maybe every
      Gassho, J

      stlah
      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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      • Chikyou
        Member
        • May 2022
        • 1048

        #18
        Originally posted by Jundo
        I also remind folk of my recommendation to intentionally sit quite frequently in particularly noise, smell, sight disturbing places ... for the disturbance is likewise largely between the ears ...
        I have a German Shepherd mix, I don't need to go far to find auditory disturbance. Her barking is like getting smacked in the side of the head repeatedly. (And she loves to bark.)

        I did have an amazing experience with this past week's Zazenkai; I had often heard it said that thoughts are scenery of the mind, but I hadn't really felt that before. But while I sat this time, I experienced exactly that. The thoughts were scenery, of equal weight as the birds chirping, the wind chimes, the traffic and everything else. It was easy to shift my attention between thoughts, the birds, my breathing etc. Even as the hours wore on and fatigue set in and thoughts became more numerous, I maintained the feeling that they're just scenery and shifting my attention away from them was easy. Even the innermost observational thoughts on the experience of Zazen began to fade into stillness.

        My kinhin was also much more meditative; kinhin usually sets the monkey mind jumping but not this time.

        Sorry for running long
        Gassho
        SatLah
        Kelly
        Chikyō 知鏡
        (Wisdom Mirror)
        They/Them

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        • Jundo
          Treeleaf Founder and Priest
          • Apr 2006
          • 44331

          #19
          Originally posted by KellyLM
          I did have an amazing experience with this past week's Zazenkai; I had often heard it said that thoughts are scenery of the mind, but I hadn't really felt that before. But while I sat this time, I experienced exactly that. The thoughts were scenery, of equal weight as the birds chirping, the wind chimes, the traffic and everything else. It was easy to shift my attention between thoughts, the birds, my breathing etc. Even as the hours wore on and fatigue set in and thoughts became more numerous, I maintained the feeling that they're just scenery and shifting my attention away from them was easy. Even the innermost observational thoughts on the experience of Zazen began to fade into stillness.

          My kinhin was also much more meditative; kinhin usually sets the monkey mind jumping but not this time.
          Lovely. Just also welcome the cloudier, less clear, days when the dog starts barking and monkeys start jumping again ...

          Gassho, J

          stlah
          ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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          • Chikyou
            Member
            • May 2022
            • 1048

            #20
            Originally posted by Jundo
            Lovely. Just also welcome the cloudier, less clear, days when the dog starts barking and monkeys start jumping again ...

            Gassho, J

            stlah


            Gassho,
            SatLah
            Kelly
            Chikyō 知鏡
            (Wisdom Mirror)
            They/Them

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            • Shinshi
              Senior Priest-in-Training
              • Jul 2010
              • 4270

              #21
              Originally posted by KellyLM
              I have a German Shepherd mix, I don't need to go far to find auditory disturbance. Her barking is like getting smacked in the side of the head repeatedly. (And she loves to bark.)

              I did have an amazing experience with this past week's Zazenkai; I had often heard it said that thoughts are scenery of the mind, but I hadn't really felt that before. But while I sat this time, I experienced exactly that. The thoughts were scenery, of equal weight as the birds chirping, the wind chimes, the traffic and everything else. It was easy to shift my attention between thoughts, the birds, my breathing etc. Even as the hours wore on and fatigue set in and thoughts became more numerous, I maintained the feeling that they're just scenery and shifting my attention away from them was easy. Even the innermost observational thoughts on the experience of Zazen began to fade into stillness.

              My kinhin was also much more meditative; kinhin usually sets the monkey mind jumping but not this time.

              Sorry for running long
              Gassho
              SatLah
              Kelly
              Thanks for sharing that Kelly. It was lovely.

              Gassho, Shinshi

              SaT-LaH
              空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi

              For Zen students a weed is a treasure. With this attitude, whatever you do, life becomes an art.
              ​— Shunryu Suzuki

              E84I - JAJ

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