Jundo Interviewed: Zen of the Future!

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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40862

    Jundo Interviewed: Zen of the Future!

    Dear Folks,

    I was interviewed by a well known podcast about 'futurism & technology' regarding my upcoming book, 'Building the Future Buddha: The Kōan of Robots, Genes, Saving the World and Travelling to the Stars,' which considers what Zen and Buddhist Practice might be 500 or 2500 years onward from now (not just how it was 500 or 2500 years in the past, or when 'being in the now,' as is our usual focus in Zen):

    Roshi Jundo Cohen on Zen, AI, Transhumanism and Saving the World

    During our 2-hour conversation with Jundo Cohen, we cover a variety of interesting topics such as the story of how a Jewish kid from the Bronx became a Zen Master in Japan; Buddhism and Zen Buddhism; oneness, wholeness, and the illusion of separation; whether we are living in a simulation; why the world is both perfect and imperfect; moderation, compassion, simplicity, desire and excess; dealing with pain and discomfort; why acceptance is not giving up; the wave as a manifestation of the sea; artificial meat, modifying the human genome and other tech solutions to our problems; David Pearce’s Hedonistic Imperative; the singularity, AI and Transhumanism.
    Somehow, I ended up on a podcast that interviews really great folks like Noam Chomsky, physicists like Michio Kaku and Lawrence Krauss, Royal Astronomer Sir Martin Reese, AI genius Marvin Minsky ...


    ... and then the likes of me! The TWO HOUR marathon interview starts with my life story (I advise you to fast forward through that), but then gets into Zen practice for the technology-minded, as well as a variety of topics such as Buddhism in a world of robots, bodily implants in place of imprisonment for violent criminals, space travel, our possible AI overlords, ending Global Warming through Zen, and the potential for making a kinder, more loving and less violent human race via the human genome. Can we get some Dharma in our drones, motherly love on our motherboards, Precepts into our programs, generosity in our genes? In such an age, will Zen be practiced, programmed, bred or wired in? Can robots be 'Roshis,' and might AI attain enlightenment?

    I discuss how the "white hat" good guys need to get ahead of these technological innovations before the "black hat" military-industrialists, corporations and dictators use these coming methods to create their ideal soldiers, workers and compliant citizens. What can Zen and Buddhist values and Precepts tell us about the ethical use of these technologies, as well as about creating gentle future humans (or whatever human-electro-bio hybrid species will succeed us) who are truly content, peaceful, wise, compassionate and good ...

    ... as well as how we need to remember to step away from the keyboards and screens, and turn off the machines too.

    It is available as an audio podcast ...


    ... and also here on the youtubes:


    Gassho, Jundo

    STLah
    Last edited by Jundo; 02-24-2022, 03:14 AM.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE
  • Rousei
    Member
    • Oct 2020
    • 118

    #2
    That sounds like an amazing listen! I'll try and download the marathon of an interview and fit it in when I can! I do enjoy discussions about consciousness and can robots have consciousness! Zen and technology sounds really interesting too so I'm looking forward to it.

    Gassho
    Rousei
    ST
    浪省 - RouSei - Wandering Introspection

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    • aprapti
      Member
      • Jun 2017
      • 889

      #3

      hobo kore dojo / 歩歩是道場 / step, step, there is my place of practice

      Aprāpti (अप्राप्ति) non-attainment

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      • Anchi
        Member
        • Sep 2015
        • 556

        #4
        Life itself is the only teacher.
        一 Joko Beck


        STLah
        安知 Anchi

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        • Suuko
          Member
          • May 2017
          • 405

          #5
          You did it. Great, Jundo. Will be watching soon.

          Gassho,
          Sat,
          Lah,
          Suuko.


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          Has been known as Guish since 2017 on the forum here.

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          • Dogukan
            Member
            • Oct 2021
            • 144

            #6
            Well, I was intended to watch an episode of Downton Abbey, but instead of traveling to 20th century England, I found myself in the future. I enjoyed it more than I expected. Interesting (though unfamiliar to me) topic, bright interviewer, and equally bright interviewee: A perfect trinity and it's less complicated than the famous one. Thank you.

            Gassho,
            Doğukan.
            Sat.
            Last edited by Dogukan; 02-24-2022, 06:44 PM.

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            • Shinshi
              Senior Priest-in-Training
              • Jul 2010
              • 3752

              #7
              This is fantastic Jundo! Thank you for sharing.

              Gassho, Shinshi

              SaT-LaH
              空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi

              For Zen students a weed is a treasure. With this attitude, whatever you do, life becomes an art.
              ​— Shunryu Suzuki

              E84I - JAJ

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              • Shokai
                Dharma Transmitted Priest
                • Mar 2009
                • 6448

                #8
                This is awesome, to watch your teacher go it with a professional sceptic. I listened/watched al the way thru. You mention skipping the life story bit but, that too was edifying. Thanks for sharing the video and may I add my congratulations for a job well done; not perfect but perfect as it is.

                gassho, Shokai
                stlah
                合掌,生開
                gassho, Shokai

                仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

                "Open to life in a benevolent way"

                https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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                • Juki
                  Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 771

                  #9
                  Congratulations.

                  Does a robot have a Buddha nature?

                  Gassho
                  Juki
                  sat today and lah
                  "First you have to give up." Tyler Durden

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                  • Tomás ESP
                    Member
                    • Aug 2020
                    • 575

                    #10
                    It's great to have a human teacher. And, even though I do not agree with some ideas put forth, it's nice to listen to this podcast for over 2 hours. Also, I am glad to learn more about yourself as a person Jundo, it makes me feel a bit closer to you as a student, which is nice. Thank you for sharing. Looking forward to Nikola's trip to Japan (if he decides to document it!).

                    Gassho, Tomás
                    Sat&LaH
                    Last edited by Tomás ESP; 02-27-2022, 02:51 PM.

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                    • Onrin
                      Member
                      • Apr 2021
                      • 194

                      #11
                      Enjoyable listen, and remarkably like discussions when hanging out with you.
                      Hopefully we can do that soon!
                      Gassho,
                      Chris

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                      • DGF
                        Member
                        • Feb 2022
                        • 118

                        #12
                        Thank you for Sharing this with us Sensei Jundo,

                        SAT
                        Diana

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          I just got to listen to it. Thank you for sharing. I enjoyed it.

                          Gassho
                          Bobby
                          SatTodayLAH


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                          • Gregor
                            Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 638

                            #14
                            Very cool will watch on Monday
                            Jukai '09 Dharma Name: Shinko 慎重(Prudent Calm)

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