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  • Kyoshin
    Member
    • Apr 2016
    • 308

    #76
    In Jundo's defense, getting unhelpful answers from teachers is one of the central pillars of zen practice.


    Gassho
    Kyōshin
    Satlah

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    • Bion
      Senior Priest-in-Training
      • Aug 2020
      • 4800

      #77
      Originally posted by Jundo
      I know what I meant.

      Gassho, J

      STLah
      [emoji1374] I take that as a mic drop [emoji1787]

      SatToday lah
      "Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi

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      • Bion
        Senior Priest-in-Training
        • Aug 2020
        • 4800

        #78
        Originally posted by Kyoshin
        In Jundo's defense, getting unhelpful answers from teachers is one of the central pillars of zen practice.


        Gassho
        Kyōshin
        Satlah

        Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk
        Aren’t all answers helpful? Whether they clarify something or whether they make us think.. It’s all helpful.

        [emoji1374] SatToday lah
        "Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi

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        • Kyoshin
          Member
          • Apr 2016
          • 308

          #79
          Originally posted by jakeb
          Aren’t all answers helpful? Whether they clarify something or whether they make us think.. It’s all helpful.

          [emoji1374] SatToday lah
          Helpful answers are unhelpful, unhelpful answers are helpful.

          Gassho
          Kyōshin
          Satlah

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          • Bion
            Senior Priest-in-Training
            • Aug 2020
            • 4800

            #80
            Originally posted by Kyoshin
            Helpful answers are unhelpful, unhelpful answers are helpful.

            Gassho
            Kyōshin
            Satlah

            Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk
            Zen it up! [emoji1]

            [emoji1374] SatToday
            "Stepping back with open hands, is thoroughly comprehending life and death. Immediately you can sparkle and respond to the world." - Hongzhi

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            • Kyoshin
              Member
              • Apr 2016
              • 308

              #81
              Originally posted by jakeb
              Zen it up! [emoji1]

              [emoji1374] SatToday
              I'll definitely not try to do that. [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]
              Gassho
              Kyōshin
              Satlah

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              • gaurdianaq
                Member
                • Jul 2020
                • 252

                #82
                Originally posted by Kyoshin
                Helpful answers are unhelpful, unhelpful answers are helpful.

                Gassho
                Kyōshin
                Satlah

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                I retract my previous statement of "getting it".


                Evan,
                Sat today, lah
                Just going through life one day at a time!

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                • Kyoshin
                  Member
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 308

                  #83
                  Originally posted by gaurdianaq
                  I retract my previous statement of "getting it".


                  Evan,
                  Sat today, lah
                  Just a little joke. Riffing on the "form is emptiness, emptiness is form" bit of the Heart Sutra. The "x is y, y is x" formula is an endless well of terrible Buddhist comedy. [emoji16]

                  Gassho
                  Kyōshin
                  Satlah

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                  • Jundo
                    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 40719

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Kyoshin
                    Just a little joke. Riffing on the "form is emptiness, emptiness is form" bit of the Heart Sutra. The "x is y, y is x" formula is an endless well of terrible Buddhist comedy. [emoji16]

                    Gassho
                    Kyōshin
                    Satlah

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                    Okay guys, cut the banter now.

                    Gassho, J

                    STLah
                    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                    • A.J.
                      Member
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 176

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Jundo
                      Sorry you feel that way. Have been trying to respond to all your questions as possible. Now, let's all swim!

                      Gassho, J

                      STLah
                      The assumption that trickles in here that there is a strong separation between having experience and having questions is the only aspect I find unhelpful because it doesn't seem relevant or true. To have experiences easily creates more questions that sound intellectual because one wonders how the experience relates to the broader context of a tradition with points of view based on those sorts of experiences. I was only stating my thought on that one aspect that has come up in more than one conversation but I appreciate your responses in general so no need to be sorry.

                      Gassho,

                      Andrew,

                      Satlah
                      "Priest" here is rude. Not worth the time if you want depth in discussion because past a point he just goes into shut-down mode. No wonder he limits everyone to three sentences and is the most frequent offender of his own rule. Some kind of control thing. Won't be back.

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                      • Jundo
                        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 40719

                        #86
                        Originally posted by A.J.
                        The assumption that trickles in here that there is a strong separation between having experience and having questions is the only aspect I find unhelpful because it doesn't seem relevant or true. To have experiences easily creates more questions that sound intellectual because one wonders how the experience relates to the broader context of a tradition with points of view based on those sorts of experiences. I was only stating my thought on that one aspect that has come up in more than one conversation but I appreciate your responses in general so no need to be sorry.

                        Gassho,

                        Andrew,

                        Satlah
                        Keep em coming if you want. So long as you also thoroughly know or learn, to the marrow and beyond, how to sit for a time dropping all questions and measures, then feel free to ask away once you get up.

                        Gassho, Jundo

                        STLah
                        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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