A TREELEAF EXPERIMENT: Three Sacred Sentences (Please Join Poll)

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  • murasaki
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    First time here in a reaaaallllllly long time.
    My husband, who used to be my boyfriend, is thinking about joining.
    I should just sit now.

    _/\_

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  • Tai Shi
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    "I heard this morning morning's minion" Hopkins. It resided in my swing through my own transitional pain as my starling beat its wing against my daughter's books she must endure-- it's my fault. I must endure my pain.
    Tai Shi
    sat
    Gassho

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  • Kokuu
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    Interesting. What's the idea behind introducing this?
    It has been noted of late that the forum has become a bit chattersome so this is an attempt to just to focus minds on what is most important.


    I'm debating on leaving America. I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
    And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made;....Yeats
    Love that Yeats poem!

    And I shall have some peace there, for peace comes dropping slow,
    Dropping from the veils of the morning to where the cricket sings;
    There midnight’s all a glimmer, and noon a purple glow,
    And evening full of the linnet’s wings.


    Gassho
    Kokuu
    -sattoday-

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  • Tom A.
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    Gassho,

    Tom,
    SAT/LAH

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  • Seibu
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    Sounds like a great experiment

    Gassho,
    Seibu
    Sattoday

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  • Tai Shi
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    Old Teacher Old Artificer stand me now and ever in good stead.
    Tai Shi
    sat/ lah
    Gassho

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  • shikantazen
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    Interesting. What's the idea behind introducing this?

    Gassho,
    Sam
    STLah

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  • Science Abbot
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    Wonderful.

    "Simple can be harder than complex: you have to work hard to get your thinking clean to make it simple." - Steve Jobs (Wired, 1996)

    Gassho,
    Mui
    Sat/LAH

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  • Amelia
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    I consider it an excellent challenge in learning to write more intentionally.

    Gassho
    Sat today, lah

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  • Jundo
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    Originally posted by Shinshi


    Gassho, Shinshi

    SaT-LaH
    By the way, I did not make up the content any of those Vinaya rules (although I don't think it literally says "bag of rice," it does list similar "inanimate objects"). Apparently, a few of those old monks came up with 101 ways to bend the rules on a lonely Tuesday night.

    Intentional emission of semen, except while dreaming, entails initial and subsequent meetings of the Community. ... A bhikkhu causes an emission making an effort (1) at an internal object, (2) at an external object, (3) at both an internal and an external object, or (4) by shaking his pelvis in the air. It then goes on to explain these terms: The internal object is one’s own living body. External objects can either be animate or inanimate objects. ...

    In making the exception for what happens while asleep, the Buddha states that even though there may be the intention to cause an emission, it doesn’t count. The Commentary goes on to say, however, that if a bhikkhu fully awakens in the course of a wet dream, he should lie still and be extremely careful not to make a move that would fulfill the factor of effort under this rule. If the process has reached the point where it is irreversible and the ejaculation occurs spontaneously, he incurs no penalty regardless of whether he enjoys it. ... However, the Commentary’s two cases concerning nocturnal emissions, mentioned above, indicate that if a nocturnal emission occurs after a bhikkhu made a fully intentional effort toward an emission before falling asleep, he would incur the full offense under this rule unless the effort and intent were clearly stopped with a clear change of heart while he was still awake.


    And you guys think you have it rough just to use three sentences!?!

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    Last edited by Jundo; 07-18-2020, 12:14 AM.

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  • Jakuden
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    Originally posted by Jundo
    No, will wag a finger at too much of that, and I added "(of ordinary length)" to the description to cover Faulkner and friends.

    This is how the Vinaya rule for monk behavior in India started off with a simple rule like "don't have sex," and soon ended up with pages and pages of rules about "and that includes not with a sack of rice" but "it's okay if asleep and you had sex in a dream but you didn't mean it, but not including if you went to sleep hoping it would happen in a dream, and further, the foregoing includes dreams about sacks of rice!"

    So, let's keep the spirit of the rule!

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    Yeah sounds just like the journey of the policy manual at my clinic. Every year we revise it and add all the new creative sandbox rules we have been forced to come up with.

    Gassho
    Jakuden
    SatToday/LAH



    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

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  • Kyonin
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    Understood.

    Gassho,

    Kyonin
    Sat/LAH

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  • Shinshi
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    Originally posted by Jundo
    No, will wag a finger at too much of that, and I added "(of ordinary length)" to the description to cover Faulkner and friends.

    This is how the Vinaya rule for monk behavior in India started off with a simple rule like "don't have sex," and soon ended up with pages and pages of rules about "and that includes not with a sack of rice" but "it's okay if asleep and you had sex in a dream but you didn't mean it, but not including if you went to sleep hoping it would happen in a dream, and further, the foregoing includes dreams about sacks of rice!"

    So, let's keep the spirit of the rule!

    Gassho, J

    STLah


    Gassho, Shinshi

    SaT-LaH

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  • Jundo
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    Originally posted by Nenka
    How long until people start breaking up long posts into 1/10, 2/10, etc. like they do on Twitter?

    Gassho

    Nenka
    ST
    No, will wag a finger at too much of that, and I added "(of ordinary length)" to the description to cover Faulkner and friends.

    This is how the Vinaya rule for monk behavior in India started off with a simple rule like "don't have sex," and soon ended up with pages and pages of rules about "and that includes not with a sack of rice" but "it's okay if asleep and you had sex in a dream but you didn't mean it, but not including if you went to sleep hoping it would happen in a dream, and further, the foregoing includes dreams about sacks of rice!"

    So, let's keep the spirit of the rule!

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    Last edited by Jundo; 07-17-2020, 08:04 PM.

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  • Michael Joseph
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    Originally posted by Meitou
    I'm raising the stakes ; I give you - Henry James!
    Gassho
    Meitou
    Sattoday lah
    Being from the American South, I'll be reading Faulkner. MMMM--earthy.

    Gassho,

    Hobun

    STLAH

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