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  • Tai Do
    Member
    • Jan 2019
    • 1448

    #16
    Thank you for the Samu Gatha, Doyū.

    Mateus
    Sat today/LAH
    怠努 (Tai Do) - Lazy Effort
    (also known as Mateus )

    禅戒一如 (Zen Kai Ichi Nyo) - Zazen and the Precepts are One!

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    • Onka
      Member
      • May 2019
      • 1575

      #17
      Originally posted by Doyū
      Upaya has a samu gatha

      http://https://www.upaya.org/teachin...gy/samu-gatha/

      Gassho
      Doyu sat and lah today

      Addendum: corrected URL per Kokuu, below: https://www.upaya.org/teachings/liturgy/samu-gatha/
      This is the one I'll go with I reckon. Thank you Doyu.
      Thanks to other contributors too.
      Gassho
      Anna

      ST
      穏 On (Calm)
      火 Ka (Fires)
      They/She.

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      • Kokuu
        Treeleaf Priest
        • Nov 2012
        • 6840

        #18
        I must admit I find the Upaya gatha a little on the wordy side...

        How about:

        Approaching this task with a sense of joy
        Mind and body drop away.
        Each moment is an offering to all sentient beings.
        A day without work is a day without food
        .*

        *This line is attributed to Master Baizhang (720–814) who was the teacher of Linji/Rinzai. It is said that when Baizhang was getting older, his students hid his tools and refused to let him work. In response he stopped eating, reciting this phrase.

        Just an idea.

        Gassho
        Kokuu
        -sattoday/lah-

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        • Shinshi
          Treeleaf Unsui
          • Jul 2010
          • 3638

          #19
          Originally posted by Kokuu
          I must admit I find the Upaya gatha a little on the wordy side...

          How about:

          Approaching this task with a sense of joy
          Mind and body drop away.
          Each moment is an offering to all sentient beings.
          A day without work is a day without food
          .*

          *This line is attributed to Master Baizhang (720–814) who was the teacher of Linji/Rinzai. It is said that when Baizhang was getting older, his students hid his tools and refused to let him work. In response he stopped eating, reciting this phrase.

          Just an idea.

          Gassho
          Kokuu
          -sattoday/lah-
          I really like that Kokuu. I understand why you wrote it the way you did and it is really good. I think that for me, I'll make this this one word change.

          Approaching this task with a sense of joy
          Mind and body drop away.
          Each moment is an offering to all sentient beings.
          A day without work is a day without sustenance.

          Then it references Master Baizhang, but it can also refer to work sustaining the soul. Not better, just an alternative.

          Gassho, Shinshi

          SaT-LaH
          空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi
          There are those who, attracted by grass, flowers, mountains, and waters, flow into the Buddha way.
          -Dogen
          E84I - JAJ

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          • Shonin Risa Bear
            Member
            • Apr 2019
            • 923

            #20
            Kokuu, Shinshi, this is getting good. I'm glad you asked, Anna.

            _()_

            gassho
            doyu sat/lah today
            Visiting priest: use salt

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            • Tai Do
              Member
              • Jan 2019
              • 1448

              #21
              I think I will use both. Doyū’ suggestion for workplace, Kokuu’s for home samu.
              Gassho,
              Mateus
              Sat today/LAH
              怠努 (Tai Do) - Lazy Effort
              (also known as Mateus )

              禅戒一如 (Zen Kai Ichi Nyo) - Zazen and the Precepts are One!

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              • Washin
                Treeleaf Unsui
                • Dec 2014
                • 3786

                #22
                Originally posted by Kokuu
                I must admit I find the Upaya gatha a little on the wordy side...

                How about:

                Approaching this task with a sense of joy
                Mind and body drop away.
                Each moment is an offering to all sentient beings.
                A day without work is a day without food
                .*

                *This line is attributed to Master Baizhang (720–814) who was the teacher of Linji/Rinzai. It is said that when Baizhang was getting older, his students hid his tools and refused to let him work. In response he stopped eating, reciting this phrase.

                Just an idea.

                Gassho
                Kokuu
                -sattoday/lah-
                Really good one. Thank you for sharing, Kokuu

                Gassho,
                Washin
                sat/lah
                Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
                Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
                ----
                I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
                and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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                • Jundo
                  Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 40188

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Shinshi
                  As I understand it that is the Rinzai style.

                  Gassho, Shinshi

                  SaT-LaH
                  Shinshi, l wrote to Muho of Antaiji, the fellow in the photo l posted yesterday, and he did say that he was dressed Rinzai style regarding both the Shukin and blue Koromo. l am not sure why Muho was dressed so, but l get the feeling that he just likes the style.

                  Gassho, J

                  STLah
                  ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                  • Gukan
                    Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 194

                    #24
                    Kokuu and Shinshi, I like these variations very much and have added them to a post-it note on my laptop. I often approach my work with less of a feeling of joy and more one of mild dread, so this is a nice reminder, although I reserve the right to approach long translations of reports into out-of-specification test results with both mild dread *and* deep ennui

                    Gassho,
                    Libby
                    ST

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                    • Kokuu
                      Treeleaf Priest
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 6840

                      #25
                      Approaching this task with a sense of joy
                      Mind and body drop away.
                      Each moment is an offering to all sentient beings.
                      A day without work is a day without sustenance.
                      That version is fine with me!


                      Kokuu and Shinshi, I like these variations very much and have added them to a post-it note on my laptop. I often approach my work with less of a feeling of joy and more one of mild dread, so this is a nice reminder, although I reserve the right to approach long translations of reports into out-of-specification test results with both mild dread *and* deep ennui
                      I am sure we can come up with a gatha for that!


                      Gassho
                      Kokuu
                      -sattoday/lah-

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                      • Tokan
                        Treeleaf Unsui
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 1250

                        #26


                        Tokan (sat)
                        平道 島看 Heidou Tokan (Balanced Way Island Nurse)
                        I enjoy learning from everyone, I simply hope to be a friend along the way

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                        • Daitetsu
                          Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 1154

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Jundo
                          Shinshi, l wrote to Muho of Antaiji, the fellow in the photo l posted yesterday, and he did say that he was dressed Rinzai style regarding both the Shukin and blue Koromo. l am not sure why Muho was dressed so, but l get the feeling that he just likes the style.
                          Hi Jundo,

                          Before Muho became the abott Antaiji he also practiced in a Rinzai monastery for a winter or so (in Saifukuji). Maybe this influenced him?

                          Gassho,

                          Daitetsu

                          #sat2day
                          no thing needs to be added

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                          • Nengei
                            Member
                            • Dec 2016
                            • 1697

                            #28
                            This is how religions get started. 3000 years from now Zen folks will be lecturing that you must say the samu gatha exactly this way as taught by the monks of Treeleaf Zendo. And the emphasis is on the second syllable.

                            Gassho,
                            然芸 Nengei
                            Sat today. LAH.
                            You deserve to be happy.
                            You deserve to be loved.
                            遜道念芸 Sondō Nengei (he/him)

                            Please excuse any indication that I am trying to teach anything. I am a priest in training and have no qualifications or credentials to teach Zen practice or the Dharma.

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                            • Jundo
                              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 40188

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Nengei
                              This is how religions get started. 3000 years from now Zen folks will be lecturing that you must say the samu gatha exactly this way as taught by the monks of Treeleaf Zendo.
                              ONLY 3000 years from now? I was hoping for longer.

                              Gassho, J

                              STLah
                              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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