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  • Onka
    Member
    • May 2019
    • 1576

    Question re: Samu practice

    G'day folks
    I'm wondering if there is a Sutra or something else that is recited before undertaking our daily Samu practice?
    Thanks in advance.
    Gassho
    Anna

    ST
    穏 On (Calm)
    火 Ka (Fires)
    They/She.
  • Kokuu
    Dharma Transmitted Priest
    • Nov 2012
    • 7321

    #2
    Hi Anna

    Good question! As far as I know there isn't but Jundo might know better!

    You can bow to the task before starting and again at the end if you wish to show respect.

    There are some short gathas (mindfulness verses) that may be used during certain daily tasks to be found in our Treeleaf Retreat Chant Book:

    Verse On Entering Bath

    Bathing the body,
    may all living beings
    be clean in body and mind,
    pure and shining within and without.


    Verse For Tooth Brushing

    Brushing my teeth and rinsing my mouth,
    I vow to speak purely and lovingly.
    When my mouth is fragrant with
    right speech,
    A flower blooms in the garden of the heart.


    Verse For Face/Hand Washing

    Washing the face/hands,
    I vow with all beings
    To pierce the pure Dharma gate
    Forever undefiled


    Verse On Entering Toilet

    Defiled or immaculate,
    increasing or decreasing--
    these concepts exist only in our mind.
    The reality of interbeing is unsurpassed.


    Verse After Each Of The Foregoing

    Using the (bath / tooth brush/ wash basin / toilet)
    I vow with all beings
    To pierce defilement
    clearing greed, anger and ignorance.


    Gassho
    Kokuu
    -sattoday-
    Last edited by Kokuu; 09-09-2019, 01:40 PM.

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    • Jundo
      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
      • Apr 2006
      • 43423

      #3
      As Kokuu says, a simple Gassho, before and after, is enough.

      Yes, you could recite ... or even create a Gatha for any activity (just let it be heartfelt, meaningful, even a little humor is fine). Yes, one can make their own Gatha for ANYTHING ... which is exactly what Treeleafers have done for fun and personal inspiration ...

      I really like working with gathas. I wrote about them on my blog (http://dharmacore.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/zen-buddhist-gathas/), and I love the ones written by Thich Nhat Hanh (http://www.nuhong.org/bd_stepping_freedom.htm) and Robert Aitken (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0938077600/). I write a few of my own from time


      Gassho, J

      STLah
      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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      • Gukan
        Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 194

        #4
        Originally posted by Jundo
        Yes, you could recite ... or even create a Gatha for any activity (just let it be heartfelt, meaningful, even a little humor is fine). Yes, one can make their own Gatha for ANYTHING ... which is exactly what Treeleafers have done for fun and personal inspiration ...

        I really like working with gathas. I wrote about them on my blog (http://dharmacore.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/zen-buddhist-gathas/), and I love the ones written by Thich Nhat Hanh (http://www.nuhong.org/bd_stepping_freedom.htm) and Robert Aitken (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0938077600/). I write a few of my own from time
        Some of the gathas on that thread are just great! Thanks Jundo for linking to this, which I hadn’t seen before. While small in form, a good gatha can really pack a mighty mighty punch.

        Thank you for this question, Anna.

        Gassho,
        Libby
        ST

        Edited to add that I just remembered Thich Nhat Hanh has one to say when hugging your kids and the first time I mindfully applied it I almost burst into tears, it was so beautifully overwhelming. I’ll try and dig it out.
        Last edited by Gukan; 09-08-2019, 10:06 AM.

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        • Tai Shi
          Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 3485

          #5
          I sometimes recite The Heart Sutra before sitting practice Shikantaza vow to just sit.


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          • Onka
            Member
            • May 2019
            • 1576

            #6
            Thank you Kokuu and Jundo
            Gassho
            Anna
            ST
            穏 On (Calm)
            火 Ka (Fires)
            They/She.

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            • Tai Shi
              Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 3485

              #7
              The Robe Verse is appropriate, and part of the opening chants of Zazenkai and simple bowing and if able full body to floor. The later is impossible for me so I simple bend from my waist.
              Tai Shi
              sat/lah
              Gassho


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              • Jundo
                Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                • Apr 2006
                • 43423

                #8
                Originally posted by Tai Shi
                The Robe Verse is appropriate, and part of the opening chants of Zazenkai and simple bowing and if able full body to floor. The later is impossible for me so I simple bend from my waist.
                Tai Shi
                sat/lah
                Gassho


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                Of course, we do usually take off the Rakusu for Samu involving physical labor where it may become dirty, so would not wear it.

                A Koan: The Rakusu is beyond "clean" or "dirty," and cannot possibly become sullied ... yet try not to get it dirty!

                Gassho, J

                STlah
                ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                • Washin
                  Senior Priest-in-Training
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 3935

                  #9
                  Of course, we do usually take off the Rakusu for Samu involving physical labor where it may become dirty, so would not wear it.
                  .. Or one can tie the Rakusu up with Shiken belt. When at sesshin I saw some elder monks doing that though I'd still not recommend it if one is involved in some labor with dirt.
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                  Gassho,
                  Washin
                  sat/lah
                  Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
                  Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
                  ----
                  I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
                  and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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                  • Jakuden
                    Member
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 6134

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Washin
                    .. Or one can tie the Rakusu up with Shiken belt. When at sesshin I saw some elder monks doing that though I'd still not recommend it if one is involved in some labor with dirt.
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                    Gassho,
                    Washin
                    sat/lah
                    Oh interesting! That’s pretty wild how he has it tied.

                    Gassho
                    Jakuden
                    SatToday


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                    • Shinshi
                      Senior Priest-in-Training
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 4138

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jakuden
                      Oh interesting! That’s pretty wild how he has it tied.

                      Gassho
                      Jakuden
                      SatToday


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                      As I understand it that is the Rinzai style.

                      Gassho, Shinshi

                      SaT-LaH
                      空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi

                      For Zen students a weed is a treasure. With this attitude, whatever you do, life becomes an art.
                      ​— Shunryu Suzuki

                      E84I - JAJ

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                      • Jundo
                        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 43423

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Shinshi
                        As I understand it that is the Rinzai style.

                        Gassho, Shinshi

                        SaT-LaH
                        Muho of Antaiji wore things that way sometimes too, and he is quite Soto ...



                        I am not sure about the tradition in Soto Zen, so I will ask at the SZBA and report back. It is not so common.

                        Gassho, J

                        STLah
                        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                        • Shonin Risa Bear
                          Member
                          • Apr 2019
                          • 941

                          #13
                          Upaya has a samu gatha

                          http://https://www.upaya.org/teachin...gy/samu-gatha/

                          Gassho
                          Doyu sat and lah today

                          Addendum: corrected URL per Kokuu, below: https://www.upaya.org/teachings/liturgy/samu-gatha/
                          Last edited by Shonin Risa Bear; 09-09-2019, 06:08 PM.
                          Visiting priest: use salt

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                          • Kokuu
                            Dharma Transmitted Priest
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 7321

                            #14
                            Thanks, Doyū!

                            I think you missed a colon in the URL: https://www.upaya.org/teachings/liturgy/samu-gatha/

                            Gassho
                            Kokuu
                            -sattoday/lah-

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                            • Shonin Risa Bear
                              Member
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 941

                              #15
                              Oh, it shortened it! That's what I get for using the iPad indiscriminately. Don't see well enough to be doing that and got hasty. _()_

                              gassho
                              doyu sat/lah
                              Visiting priest: use salt

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