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  • Shinshi
    Treeleaf Unsui
    • Jul 2010
    • 3656

    #16
    Here is a link to the Red Pine translation if anyone would like to take a look



    Gassho, Allan

    Sat-LaH
    Last edited by Shinshi; 11-04-2017, 08:19 PM.
    空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi
    There are those who, attracted by grass, flowers, mountains, and waters, flow into the Buddha way.
    -Dogen
    E84I - JAJ

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    • Troy
      Member
      • Sep 2013
      • 1318

      #17
      Heart Sutra Translation

      Thank Jundo and everyone for your input. I agree it feels a little off, but I am bit of a novice so don’t really trust my feelings. That is why I asked. I think I will stick with the version used by our sangha for my daily recitation during Ango to keep things simple. I have several unfinished books in my library and was happy to discover one was Awaking of the Heart by TNH. It has commentaries on several of the more famous sutras. One is the Heart Sutra. So, I will start there and perhaps move on to Red Pine. I enjoyed his translation as well. Thank you all [emoji1374]


      Sat2day/ and happy to add LAH for the first time today
      Last edited by Troy; 11-04-2017, 06:54 PM.

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      • Kokuu
        Treeleaf Priest
        • Nov 2012
        • 6844

        #18
        Here is a link to the Red Pine translation if anyone would like to take a look

        http://appamada.pbworks.com/f/Heart%...Red%20Pine.pdf
        Thank you, Shoshin.

        Gassho
        Kokuu
        -sattoday/lah-

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        • Kyousui
          Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 358

          #19
          All the translations have some merit but I like Treeleaf's best as it chants better than others. (Plus I have it memorized!) It's a good thing to use as a tool to practice mindfulness as if my mind wonders, I forget where I was in the chant or what's next.
          Sat today/LAH

          Kyousui - strong waters 強 水

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          • Shinshi
            Treeleaf Unsui
            • Jul 2010
            • 3656

            #20
            Originally posted by Kokuu
            Thank you, Shoshin.

            Gassho
            Kokuu
            -sattoday/lah-


            Gassho, Allan

            Sat-LaH
            空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi
            There are those who, attracted by grass, flowers, mountains, and waters, flow into the Buddha way.
            -Dogen
            E84I - JAJ

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            • Tai Shi
              Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 3416

              #21
              As one of my Ango vows, I said that I would learn, explore, more about The Heart Sutra, and The Diamond Sutra. I have re-read, and rer-read Thich Naht Hanh's commentary on the heart sutra, and read his translation of The Heart Sutra, 2014. I am reading Red Pine's commentary, very slow going for one as inexperienced as me, and only now found "a translation" of The Diamond Sutra. Where does one know more about emptiness? I have sought to know more as in acceptance of old age, not old age in understanding my own frail body at age 66, and unlike some, my body is frail. I seek liberation from fear, so fear, and not fear, form is emptiness, emptiness is form, so my own emptiness might begin a process, maybe a chain of ideas as in Thich Nhat Hanh, and finding understanding of old age in Red Pine, but I believe all is for a while constant re-reading toward some acceptance.

              Tai Shi
              sat today
              Gassho
              Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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              • Jundo
                Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                • Apr 2006
                • 40353

                #22
                Originally posted by TomSchulte
                All the translations have some merit but I like Treeleaf's best as it chants better than others. (Plus I have it memorized!) It's a good thing to use as a tool to practice mindfulness as if my mind wonders, I forget where I was in the chant or what's next.
                Sat today/LAH
                Tom, the most beautiful and honest Heart Sutra recitation that I have even heard was yours when we were together in Nebraska. (3:00 mark). Lovely. 7



                Gassho, J

                SatTodayLAH
                ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                • Washin
                  Treeleaf Unsui
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 3796

                  #23
                  Here is a link to the Red Pine translation if anyone would like to take a look



                  Gassho, Allan

                  Sat-LaH
                  Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
                  Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
                  ----
                  I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
                  and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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                  • Troy
                    Member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 1318

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jundo
                    Tom, the most beautiful and honest Heart Sutra recitation that I have even heard was yours when we were together in Nebraska. (3:00 mark). Lovely. 7



                    Gassho, J

                    SatTodayLAH
                    Gassho


                    Sat2day

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                    • Mp

                      #25
                      Hey folks,

                      I just saw this as a Youtube suggestion ... the Heart Sutra is beautiful is so many ways. =)



                      Gassho
                      Shingen

                      Sat/LAH

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                      • Shinshi
                        Treeleaf Unsui
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 3656

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Shingen
                        Hey folks,

                        I just saw this as a Youtube suggestion ... the Heart Sutra is beautiful is so many ways. =)



                        Gassho
                        Shingen

                        Sat/LAH
                        Thank you for posting that Shingen. That was lovely.

                        Gassho, Allan

                        SaT-LaH
                        空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi
                        There are those who, attracted by grass, flowers, mountains, and waters, flow into the Buddha way.
                        -Dogen
                        E84I - JAJ

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                        • Troy
                          Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 1318

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Shingen
                          Hey folks,

                          I just saw this as a Youtube suggestion ... the Heart Sutra is beautiful is so many ways. =)



                          Gassho
                          Shingen

                          Sat/LAH
                          Beautiful!


                          Sat2day

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                          • Washin
                            Treeleaf Unsui
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 3796

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Shingen
                            Hey folks,

                            I just saw this as a Youtube suggestion ... the Heart Sutra is beautiful is so many ways. =)



                            Gassho
                            Shingen

                            Sat/LAH
                            That's wonderful, Shingen. Thank you

                            Gassho
                            Washin
                            ST
                            Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
                            Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
                            ----
                            I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
                            and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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                            • Eishuu

                              #29
                              I recite a version I found in a book by Bernie Glassman, mostly because it's handy. I don't think it's much different to the Treeleaf version - maybe just in a few words here and there. If I can't find the book I recite the one I memorised in the FWBO, which is quite beautiful. I do find that chanting the Treeleaf version has a different effect on my mind than just reading aloud...my mind is much stiller after the rhythmic chanting.

                              Am happy to post the Bernie Glassman version if anyone is interested but I don't think it's much different.

                              Tai Shi, I love the Diamond Sutra although I haven't read it for years. I think this is the version I read https://www.amazon.co.uk/Diamond-Sut...sutra+hui+neng

                              This is my favourite quote from the sutra - I had it on the back of the bathroom door for years:

                              Thus shall you view this fleeting world:
                              A star at dawn, a bubble in a stream,
                              A flash of lightning in a summer cloud,
                              A flickering lamp, a phantom, and a dream.


                              It would be a wonderful sutra to study here sometime....

                              Gassho
                              Lucy
                              ST/LAH
                              Last edited by Guest; 11-07-2017, 08:43 AM.

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                              • Troy
                                Member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 1318

                                #30
                                Thank you Lucy. I struggle with the chanting because I don’t know how to pronounce some of the words very well, so I get distracted with that. I have heard from others as well that chanting brings stillness. Hoping it will be the same for me one day too. Deep bows


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