Prostrations and the Rakusu
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I hope I do not hijack this thread but I also have a question for Shingen on prostrations. What is the "correct" method to use a 108 bead mala to keep going during prostrations? I got a beautiful hand made mala from a coworker but find using during prostrations to be awkward at best. Thanks in advance.
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James F
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Jundo beat me to the punch and said just what I was going to say. =) I also know the Tibetans are big on using a mala for resertation of mantras. In Zen not so much.
However, if it is fine with Jundo, I am more then happy to do a little video of how I learned when I was with a Tibetan group (as I did the Ngondro practice, which the resertation of 9 mantras, 100,000 times each, along with prostrationd). Again not Zen, but this practice might call to you.
What do you think Jundo?
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Shingen
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Jundo and Shingen,
Thank you for the information. It appears my knowledge of Japanese Zen still has many holes.
Again you show something great about this group. Accepting people of all backgrounds and offering assistance on a practice that isn't core to the TreeLeaf lineage. I look forward to you video Shingen and will look at that post.
James F
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Jundo and Shingen,
Thank you for the information. It appears my knowledge of Japanese Zen still has many holes.
Again you show something great about this group. Accepting people of all backgrounds and offering assistance on a practice that isn't core to the TreeLeaf lineage. I look forward to you video Shingen and will look at that post.
James F
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Ok, I will do a little video up for you. Yes, Zen doesn't follow such practices, but this might call to you. I agree with Jundo that I too am not a big fan of mantra recitation, but the prostration aspect is very nice, both for the physical body, but also in helping one let go of their ego. Even though there are different schools and styles, prostrations seems to be one common thread. =)
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A good reminder..
Thank you for reposting the video, Shingen
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Hello James,
Ok, I will do a little video up for you. Yes, Zen doesn't follow such practices, but this might call to you. I agree with Jundo that I too am not a big fan of mantra recitation, but the prostration aspect is very nice, both for the physical body, but also in helping one let go of their ego. Even though there are different schools and styles, prostrations seems to be one common thread. =)
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Shingen
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After speaking with Shingen, I am going to ask him to share his video with your privately, and to others on request.
To cut to the chase, there are many very beautiful ways and flavors of Buddhist Practice. Here, I seek to offer a flavor of Practice that is less devotional and rather minimal on ritual than other lovely ways of Buddhist Practice. I do not wish to take focus from our core Practice of Shikantaza, and while we do have some other Practice we encourage such as "Giving and Receiving" (Tonglen), Metta and "Lend A Hand" daily deed Practice, they are meant to soften the heart toward charity, compassion and the suffering of others. In this case, I am not going to encourage this form of devotion. (While we do some prostrations during a few formal Ceremonies as a way to honor Tradition, I have even thought to perhaps stop all prostrations in our Community, and remain with standing Gassho bows, as more culturally suited to the West.)
So, while I know this is a powerful and beautiful Practice, and may be helpful, I am not going to present it here. I have asked Shingen to send his wonderful and graceful video to you, however, as you may have more resonance with it, and I don't want to keep you from it if helpful to you.
Gassho, Jundo
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There's an app for that!
I go to a local Korean based Sanga (Kwan Um) so i have done th 108 prostrations (who needs aerobics).
I do use a way of positioning my hands in Gassho to count chants but it doesn't work in prostrations as you have to rely on the leader for that.
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I hope I do not hijack this thread but I also have a question for Shingen on prostrations. What is the "correct" method to use a 108 bead mala to keep going during prostrations? I got a beautiful hand made mala from a coworker but find using during prostrations to be awkward at best. Thanks in advance.
Just sat
James F
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Thank you for this, Shingen. This is different than the form I learned. Perhaps it is different in the Korean tradition?
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In our Sangha, I leave a standing "Gassho" as an option for those who need or feel more comfortable that may. In the West, maybe we should just give Buddha a Handshake! Seriously!
Gassho, J
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