Is shikantaza a koanpractice?

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  • will
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    • Jun 2007
    • 2331

    #16
    Re: Is shikantaza a koanpractice?

    Let me rephrase;

    "I used to be a lot better a shikantaza before I started "trying" to do Zen (If you can classify this life.)

    G,W
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    To save all sentient beings, though beings are numberless.
    To penetrate reality, though reality is boundless.
    To transform all delusion, though delusions are immeasurable.
    To attain the enlightened way, a way non-attainable.
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    • chicanobudista
      Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 864

      #17
      Re: Is shikantaza a koanpractice?

      Originally posted by HezB
      Earwig replies: "Gimme a break, Two Legs... we gave up on that shit kalpas ago".
      "Damn! That's one angry Earwig Buddhist!" :mrgreen:
      paz,
      Erik


      Flor de Nopal Sangha

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      • TracyF
        Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 188

        #18
        Re: Is shikantaza a koanpractice?

        Stay away from earwigs. They make you crayzeeee!

        https://<div class="videocontainer w... </a> </div>

        Khaaaaaaannnnnn! :mrgreen:

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        • Tb
          Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 3186

          #19
          Re: Is shikantaza a koanpractice?

          Originally posted by chicanobudista
          Originally posted by Filur

          During koanpractice you "meditate on a question" which is exactly what you do during shikantaza, the question being you.
          But I have never asked.
          And maybe you are right.
          And maybe I am practicing too much sloppy Zen.
          But.
          Really. That's not why I do shikantaza.
          To question "who is me" during shikantaza is to search for an object or at minimum distracting.
          To ask that question, I don't need shikantaza.
          IMHO.
          The question who is me, is not quite the right one, eh?

          May the force be with you
          Tb
          Life is our temple and its all good practice
          Blog: http://fugenblog.blogspot.com/

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          • chicanobudista
            Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 864

            #20
            Re: Is shikantaza a koanpractice?

            Originally posted by Filur
            The question who is me, is not quite the right one, eh?
            Then. No question.

            May the force be with you
            Tb
            No force.
            paz,
            Erik


            Flor de Nopal Sangha

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            • FeMonky
              Member
              • May 2007
              • 50

              #21
              Re: Is shikantaza a koanpractice?

              Originally posted by chicanobudista
              I would not ask a question if I saw THAT come out of any of my hygiene items... rather I was make an exclamation... something along the lines of
              JEEBUS CRUST!!!! :shock:

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              • Tb
                Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 3186

                #22
                Re: Is shikantaza a koanpractice?

                Originally posted by chicanobudista
                Originally posted by Filur
                The question who is me, is not quite the right one, eh?
                Then. No question.

                May the force be with you
                Tb
                No force.
                Correct.

                May no force be
                Tb
                Life is our temple and its all good practice
                Blog: http://fugenblog.blogspot.com/

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                • will
                  Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 2331

                  #23
                  Re: Is shikantaza a koanpractice?

                  No force.
                  Isn't that like episode VIIII?

                  Poor Luke

                  G,W
                  [size=85:z6oilzbt]
                  To save all sentient beings, though beings are numberless.
                  To penetrate reality, though reality is boundless.
                  To transform all delusion, though delusions are immeasurable.
                  To attain the enlightened way, a way non-attainable.
                  [/size:z6oilzbt]

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                  • Tb
                    Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 3186

                    #24
                    Re: Is shikantaza a koanpractice?

                    Originally posted by will
                    No force.
                    Isn't that like episode VIIII?

                    Poor Luke

                    G,W
                    No thats when he realizes what the force is really all about, the true nature of the force. :lol:

                    Tb
                    Life is our temple and its all good practice
                    Blog: http://fugenblog.blogspot.com/

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