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I just loved watching Jundo explanation. It gave some peace to hear his words. But maybe I am the bad horse here, I still have that idea of Buddhism as a pessimistic religion, because it seems like I must accept things that I shouldn´t. If the world is X and I want it to be Y, where/when/how should I act to improve it? I still resist as a bad wheel dukkha... I sincerely look for more understanding about my life and the world. Thank you very much for the teaching Mr. Jundo.
I would say that the reason Buddhism isn't pessimistic is because it doesn't say, everything is bad and there is nothing you can do about it. It is perfectly fine to try and change a bad situation, we just have to learn to let go of the outcomes. We work to not get so attached to things so when they change we don't suffer. If you see a bad situation then work to change it. If you get too caught up in your own emotions about it then you won't suffer while trying to change these things. I probably don't make much sense, but it all basically boils down to don't get attached to things. I would also say that on one level that letting go is a version of making change.
So, an example of this from my own life is the breaking of my hot water heater. The hot water heater in my house has been dying on and off for a couple months now and we already had someone come look at it and repair it a couple months ago when it first started. So naturally when I didn't get any hot water a few days ago I was very disappointed. I could have let my anger overwhelm me and then influence my actions but instead I let it go and told my partner about it and now someone is coming to look at it. The problem can still get resolved without my needing to react to my anger and to cause suffering for myself and others.
One last example: A few years ago I was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder. Instead of becoming pessimistic and deciding that there was nothing that could be done I went on medication to help it get better. The disorder will likely never go away, instead I can learn to live in a way that is harmonious with it and continue on with my life instead of letting it bog me down and completely throwing in the towel and just giving up on life. I can continue to try and make it better while simultaneously accepting that it is there and may never change.
Anyway, I hope this helps.
Mr. John, I appreciate your kind words. Please consider what I am about to say just a thought from a distance friend lost in the woods. Let go of the outcome seems like something I´ve heard before, not in Buddhism but at the investing arena. I guess that if we do our best the outcome become somehow irrelevant, because we did the right thing and have a clean conscious. Perhaps to live with no regrets is the trick to accept bad outcomes. Like a warrior who wins or die in a battle, it doesnt matter if there is victory or defeat, a smile should be always there. Maybe I am very wrong because I am a newbie here and have infinite room to improve. I didn´t go all-out when I should and now I live nightmares of regrets. Gladly I am still here and there is time to reboot everything. I am ready for a new vision. My monkey mind definitely sucks! Thank you very much Mr. John for the conversation.
Hello Kakedashi! Man, I think this teaching was the greatest buddhist teaching I ever received. For years I have been struggling with the idea of acceptance as resignation and passivity. But now I am beyond that, one step higher. I have not enough words to thank you for showing me that. And Mr. Jundo, he is really the man. I sincerely appreciate what you have done to me. Now I am ready more than ever to go ahead.
Sitting shikantaza the other day, I got grumpy when the doorbell rang: "Don't you know this is important...I'm trying to drop self here!"
Seems even my "zazen" can slip into grasping, not letting go.
Thank you Jundo for the clarity you bring to this teaching on dukkha.
Sitting shikantaza the other day, I got grumpy when the doorbell rang: "Don't you know this is important...I'm trying to drop self here!"
Seems even my "zazen" can slip into grasping, not letting go.
Thank you Jundo for the clarity you bring to this teaching on dukkha.
Gassho, Chris sat/lah
I can relate to that completely, with a cat, a dog, and a toddler, it's such a great way to learn to sit with it!
I'm glad to start all of these Buddha basics, I've studied Buddhism for quite some time, but as we're all always beginners I'm excited for Jundo's take on it!
Jundo,
Thanks for your teachings. It is refreshing to go through the basics again.
Not long ago I was caught in a rainstorm. While some waited out the storm under shelter and others ran for cover, I resolved to "just be wet". I have to tell you I felt a huge amount of joy in that moment. I tried to explain that to my wife and she thought I was just playing in the rain. Maybe I was?
Do we have another round off chemotherapy, spend twenty hours of our week on dialysis, have an organ transplant, a heart bypass or, do we die?
In my experience I was not offered the choice and I just accepted what my doctors said I needed to do to live. If I was offered the choice I would still choose to live and my practice has given me the space from where in the middle of it all, it is all okay.
I feel that living in a world where media is constantly pressuring you to consume and telling us that "we" want ourselves to be like X, yet we are not X. However, if we buy this product then we will be X. I think this adds to the wheel not turning softly. We need to accept how we are, how the world is, and float along on the river.
It’ s a heady concept to work through, if indeed it needs to be worked through at all. We all suffer, have disappointments & frustrations. It’s when we try to fight them that the problem begins. Does that mean though, that if we CAN fix a problem, we SHOULDN’T? If it’s raining & you have no umbrella, but there is a shelter close by, do you accept the rain & not move, or do you go to the shelter? Does accepting mean that we can’t fix it it if there’s a way within our reach?
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