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  • Seikan
    Member
    • Apr 2020
    • 712

    #16
    Originally posted by Doshin
    Thanks for the suggestion. My wife used to live near Snyder in the 1970s and went to his readings not far from his summer home in the fire tower. I lived a few miles further down the mountain (hadn’t met my wife yet) but knew of Snyder but at that time was more consumed by the sciences so didn’t venture up to hear him even though I was meditating some then

    Doshin
    St
    Doshin,

    That's so cool. I'm jealous of the fact that you even lived in such proximity to Snyder (I'm a bit too much of a fanboy ).

    Another Zen-inspired poet I forgot to mention is Jim Harrison—also a contemporary and good friend of Snyder's. They were both featured in the documentary "The Practice of the Wild" where they discuss ecology and poetry. Definitely worthy of a view (or two).

    Gassho,
    Rob

    -st-

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    • Kokuu
      Treeleaf Priest
      • Nov 2012
      • 6841

      #17
      Speaking of Snyder, Whalen, etc., I also heartily recommend "Poets on the Peaks" By John Suiter, where he writes about the years when Snyder, Whalen, and Kerouac each spent their summers working as fire lookouts in the western U.S. mountains and were starting to develop their individual interests in Zen (all ultimately taking very different paths later in life). If you're interested in the developmental years of the beat poets, it is a fantastic read.
      Thank you, Rob. That does sound really interesting! I know about Gary Snyder's time as a lookout but did not know about the others. I love the Beats and spent some time a couple of years ago exploring Kerouac's relationship with Buddhism. I have Big Sky Mind: Buddhism and the Beat Generation still on the shelf to read waiting for a gap between Dōgen and Larry Niven...

      Poets on the Peaks seems to go for £30+ for copies at the moment, sadly.

      Gassho
      Kokuu
      -sattoday/lah-
      Last edited by Kokuu; 08-18-2020, 07:58 PM.

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      • Doshin
        Member
        • May 2015
        • 2641

        #18
        Originally posted by RobD
        Doshin,

        That's so cool. I'm jealous of the fact that you even lived in such proximity to Snyder (I'm a bit too much of a fanboy ).

        Another Zen-inspired poet I forgot to mention is Jim Harrison—also a contemporary and good friend of Snyder's. They were both featured in the documentary "The Practice of the Wild" where they discuss ecology and poetry. Definitely worthy of a view (or two).

        Gassho,
        Rob

        -st-

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        I have met Jim Harrison a couple of times when he came to his winter place in Patagonia, AZ. Had a beer with him a year or two before he died. First time I met him he told me he had written Legends of the Fall and I said “I know” He was an interesting man. Saw Practice of the Wild.

        Doshin
        St

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        • Hoseki
          Member
          • Jun 2015
          • 675

          #19
          Originally posted by Onkai
          Thank you, Kokuu. In another thread I asked about writers and books on haiku, but I found some answers here. I appreciate the links offered here.

          Gassho,
          Onkai
          Sat/lah
          Hi Onkai,

          I was reluctant to mention Issa as he was a Pure Land Buddhist but I find Kobayashi Issa's poems to be wonderful. David G. Lanoue has a number of books of translations of Issa's poetry and the kindle versions are only a few dollars.

          Gassho
          Hoseki
          Sattoday

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          • Doshin
            Member
            • May 2015
            • 2641

            #20
            Originally posted by Kokuu
            Hi Doshin

            Btw, did you book onto David Loy's Ecodharma course? I would really like to do it but don't have the space to take on anything else right now.

            Gassho
            Kokuu
            -sattoday/lah-
            I applied. Limited number to be accepted so I am waiting. I told David if they maxed out give my spot to a younger person. If I get in I was going to ask Jundo if he wanted me to start a thread where I summarized the teaching (what I understood at least) each week. Thought it be motivation for me to focus more!

            Doshin
            St

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            • Kokuu
              Treeleaf Priest
              • Nov 2012
              • 6841

              #21
              That's so cool. I'm jealous of the fact that you even lived in such proximity to Snyder (I'm a bit too much of a fanboy ).
              Snyder is well worth fanboying over! I actually came to him through my career in ecology and involvement in Green politics and environmentalism well before Zen and I suspect that Doshin might be the same.

              Gassho
              Kokuu
              -sattoday/lah-

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              • Kokuu
                Treeleaf Priest
                • Nov 2012
                • 6841

                #22
                I applied. Limited number to be accepted so I am waiting. I told David if they maxed out give my spot to a younger person. If I get in I was going to ask Jundo if he wanted me to start a thread where I summarized the teaching (what I understood at least) each week. Thought it be motivation for me to focus more!
                That would be great if you do get on!

                I have often mooted the idea of having an Environmental/Green Dharma sub-forum in which to place the threads we already have and to study something like Ecodharma or even something of Gary Snyder's, with the idea that you and I might co-moderate, if you would be open to it.

                But as yet, it is something whose time seems not yet to have come. Your thread, if it happens, could well precipitate more.

                Gassho
                Kokuu
                -sattoday/lah-

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                • Seikan
                  Member
                  • Apr 2020
                  • 712

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Doshin
                  I have met Jim Harrison a couple of times when he came to his winter place in Patagonia, AZ. Had a beer with him a year or two before he died. First time I met him he told me he had written Legends of the Fall and I said “I know” He was an interesting man. Saw Practice of the Wild.

                  Doshin
                  St
                  Oh man... Now I'm extremely jealous.

                  Considering how many of us seem to have similar tastes in poetry, we may want to consider an occasional online meetup/reading or something here, but maybe AFTER Ango/Jukai.

                  Gassho,
                  Rob

                  -st-


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                  • Onkai
                    Treeleaf Unsui
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 3014

                    #24
                    Thank you, Kokuu and Hoseki, for your reading suggestions.

                    Gassho,
                    Onkai
                    Sat/lah
                    美道 Bidou Beautiful Way
                    恩海 Onkai Merciful/Kind Ocean

                    I have a lot to learn; take anything I say that sounds like teaching with a grain of salt.

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                    • Onka
                      Member
                      • May 2019
                      • 1575

                      #25
                      Again, thank you Kokuu
                      Gassho
                      Onka
                      ST
                      穏 On (Calm)
                      火 Ka (Fires)
                      They/She.

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                      • Doshin
                        Member
                        • May 2015
                        • 2641

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Kokuu
                        That would be great if you do get on!

                        I have often mooted the idea of having an Environmental/Green Dharma sub-forum in which to place the threads we already have and to study something like Ecodharma or even something of Gary Snyder's, with the idea that you and I might co-moderate, if you would be open to it.

                        But as yet, it is something whose time seems not yet to have come. Your thread, if it happens, could well precipitate more.

                        Gassho
                        Kokuu
                        -sattoday/lah-
                        I like that idea.

                        Doshin
                        St

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