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  • Jakuden
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    They are shipping these children all over. A group of young boys were seen and photographed at LaGuardia airport in NY, in the dark. A couple of major airlines have declared they will not transport them, but some have already gone and it may take time to implement. I believe Delta will still fly them. No doubt it’s going to be impossible to get all these kids and parents back together.

    Gassho
    Jakuden
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  • Mp
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    Originally posted by Jundo
    Is this true? That can't be. I have trouble to believe this even in this mess. Where did you read this?

    I am sure that this will become clear in the coming days as to whether it is true or not.

    Gassho, J

    SatTodayLAH
    Yes, I heard it today both on the CBC radio programs "On the Island" and "The Current". I will keep looking for the transcripts for "On The Island", but here is the one for "The Current" (https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/...ript-1.4716032).

    Yes, things will in time become more clear, but this is still a huge issue. One immigration lawyer was very concerned with this, but we will have to see how things unfold in the coming days and weeks.

    I myself hope this is not the case ... but it is a very worrying position.

    Gassho
    Shingen

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  • Jundo
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    Originally posted by Shingen
    ... Listening to the news this morning there is little hope that the children affected will be connected back to their parents (as most of them will or have already been deported). Most if not all the children do not speak English and nor do they have a strong grasp (due to their age and language gap) to tell someone the identifying characteristics of their parents.
    Is this true? That can't be. I have trouble to believe this even in this mess. Where did you read this?

    I am sure that this will become clear in the coming days as to whether it is true or not.

    Gassho, J

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  • Mp
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    Hey folks,

    Yes this is wonderful news that Trump has changed his stance (even though he was the one who started it), but sadly his actions have had and will have a ripple effect. Listening to the news this morning there is little hope that the children affected will be connected back to their parents (as most of them will or have already been deported). Most if not all the children do not speak English and nor do they have a strong grasp (due to their age and language gap) to tell someone the identifying characteristics of their parents.

    It is wonderful to see how the world came together in support and changed happened. However, this should have never happened in the first place ... it is very sad.

    Gassho
    Shingen

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  • Shoka
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    Hi all,

    I think this is a great reminder that as Jundo said, "all the little drops of water coming together make an ocean current."

    In less than 24 hours the current completely changed. It is amazing to see that.

    For those who were able to take some action thank you, every drop matters. For those who felt like they couldn't do anything, please know that lending support and encouragement to those who are affected or taking action is help and taking action.

    Thanks to everyone who took sometime to look into this problem, engage with it, and take some action.

    Gassho,

    Shoka
    sattoday

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  • Jundo
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    Well, it looks like all the petitions and phone calls from Treeleafers worked! :-) In fact, in the wide and interconnected world, all the little drops of water coming together make an ocean current. Thank you to all who took some steps.

    It worked, but only a little and only for now. Of course, none of this solves the many many problems faced by refugees at the US border or worldwide, nor of the societies that need to figure out how best to respond. These separated families were just the surface eruption, not the underlying and chronic disease which must be addressed. Our responsibility, as individuals and as members of groups ... and as Buddhists ... continues.

    There are humane, effective and rational systems which can be developed to deal with this better, admitting those who would add and contribute to our societies We Americans (even the native Americans at some point in the past) are all the children of immigrants ourselves.

    Gassho, J

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    Last edited by Jundo; 06-21-2018, 06:42 AM.

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  • Jakuden
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    Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.


    With Texas roots and national reach, RAICES models a welcoming nation by fighting for the freedoms of immigrant, refugee, and asylum-seeking people and families.


    Info here:


    This organization, RAICES, is garnering huge support for legal representation, counseling, etc. for these families! The website I think has crashed from the traffic but you can donate through the facebook page!

    Gassho,
    Jakuden
    SatToday/LAH

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  • Eishuu
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    Originally posted by Hoseki
    Hi guys,


    I'm finding this so overwhelming. I feel so powerless and frustrated!

    Gassho

    Hoseki
    Sattoday
    Me too. I just read that the US is pulling out of the UN Human Rights Council. The amount of trauma those kids will have is heartbreaking. I'm going to see if there are any petitions to ask UK politicians/PM to put pressure on Trump by publically condemning his actions. Maybe if we can channel the pressure through political channels it could have an impact...but he does seem to be digging his heals in.

    Gassho
    Eishuu
    ST/LAH

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  • Jakuden
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    Michael Avenatti is putting the word out that he wants to represent parents and children who have been separated at the border (Stormy Daniels ‘ lawyer) You can find him on Twitter.

    Thanks for getting this going Shoka, I too have signed some online petitions but I will look into contacting senators as well.
    Gassho
    Jakuden
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  • Hoseki
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    Hi guys,


    I'm finding this so overwhelming. I feel so powerless and frustrated!

    Gassho

    Hoseki
    Sattoday

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  • Shoka
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    Hi all,

    Thanks to Sekishi for the great post on government action that can be taken. I had the great pleasure of meeting with some political leaders and there was one really valuable bit of information I walked away with.... when people call, wrote or show up to talk about something they taken it seriously. Of the thousands of people they represent even few take the time, so when people do they listen.

    Also here is another petition which you could consider signing:



    Gassho,

    Shoka
    sattoday


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  • Meian
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    As more info comes in here, I am sharing the info to my local circles of Buddhists and interfaith activist communities. They in turn are sharing it as well.

    No personal or identifying information from TreeLeaf is being posted with this info -- just the info (links and instructions) itself.

    Thank you for all you (plural) are doing, and for making this possible.

    Gassho rei
    Kim
    St lh

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  • Troy
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    Engaged Practice: I agree....Whats Next?

    Originally posted by Jundo
    If you would like to sign a public petition accompanying this Letter, please do so here:

    Stop Separating Immigrant Families_Buddhist Statement


    Thank you.

    Gassho, Jundo
    Signed. I also attempted to write the Republican Senator in my state but received an error message his website is down for maintenance. I will try again later. The democratic senator in my state already seems to be on it.


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    Last edited by Troy; 06-19-2018, 11:26 AM.

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  • Shoka
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    Hi everyone,

    So the current action I'm taking is educating myself. As is typical with hot topics there are so many news stories flying around and not everything is the most reliable. In reading several articles, I found out that the children in these cases aren't provided with a lawyers. Which for me seems like a huge problem.

    Imagine being a child in a foreign country and being on your own. I remember getting lost in a store when I was like 8 or so, and I was terrified. I was only loss for a few minutes, but it was horrifying. After that my mom talked with all us kids about what to do if we were lost. But I can't imagine trying to figure out what was going on or what to do in a court or detention system.

    There are many organizations which are providing free support for the children.

    Some of them are below:

    RAICES: This Texas-based organization offers free and low-cost legal services to immigrant children and families.

    Pueblo Sin Fronteras: This organization provides humanitarian aid and shelter to migrants on their way to the U.S.

    Together Rising: This Virginia-based organization is helping provide legal assistance for 60 migrant children who were separated from their parents and are currently detained in Arizona.

    Al Otro Lado: This bi-national organization works providing legal services to deportees and migrants in Tijuana, Mexico, including deportee parents whose children remain in the U.S.

    The Florence Project: This Arizona-based organization offers free legal services to men, women, and unaccompanied children in immigration custody.

    Texas Civil Rights Project: This organization has been using legal advocacy and litigation to help families separated at the border.

    Border Angels: This California-based organization supports San Diego County's immigrant population and focuses on issues related to the U.S.-Mexico border.


    Visibility and Amplification are also very important in causes like this. Looking around it seems that the major protests occurred last Friday, but I would venture to guess that if the issue isn't resolved soon there will be more. Signing petitions and spreading the word will help to keep the pressure up as well.

    Thanks to others who are sharing ideas of what to do.

    Gassho,

    Shoka
    sattoday

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  • Shonin
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    Signed and donated.
    Dave _/\_ SAT LAH

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