8/13 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Buddhanandi

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  • monkton
    Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 111

    #16
    Re: 8/13 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Buddhanandi

    Hi folks,

    prodded by Taigu's stick out of lurk mode again....

    I got very lost in Cook this week, especially in the cranes in the distance part but I found Hixon very useful in extracting and re-presenting what was going on.

    It's weird that I've had this same sort of message crop up in my life from at least three different sources this week. Maybe the repetition is because I'm still not getting it!

    I was reminded of Elvis Costello's quote:
    "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture - it's a really stupid thing to want to do."
    Its pointlessness of course doesn't stop anyone from writing about music, (or discussing truth or flavours and all the rest), and to deliberately not write about it in protest against the act of music journalism, as if that was some sort of purer stance, equally falls short.

    Here's another thought that might need straightening out by others:
    When I hear music I almost immediately convert it into 'my' story: (I like/dislike this sound; I understand what the composer was doing; I know someone who would love this; now we're getting to the part where... ; this reminds me of... )
    I think probably everyone else does something similar too. Patterning experience is what we unavoidably do as humans. But where is the story, the pattern (the little 'I' that is busy making them)?
    But still, inevitably, the music reaches me and in fact there would be no music if I didn't hear it. Maybe to paraphrase Tung-shan: Certainly [it]is me, but the deaf, foolish listener that I am is not [it].

    Now, what was going on with all those cranes?

    gassho,
    Monkton

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    • AlanLa
      Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 1405

      #17
      Re: 8/13 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Buddhanandi

      This guy cracks me up, all smart and arrogant, even has "Buddha" in his name already, wanting to be the great debater of Truth. Hah, what a fool :!: Reminds me of some people I know :twisted: Hell, reminds me of me :shock: Then he meets the current living Buddha, who basically tells him to "shut up and sit down." Cracks me up!

      Yeah, I like the don't rush past the truth and miss the seasoned dish line also. But what really rung my bell was the idea you can't debate the truth. As soon as you put words on it, it ceases to be the truth. As soon as you abide in anything, words, experience, whatever, it ceases to be the truth. Instead, "Simply be the truth! But do not imagine you are going to become a still pond or stainless sky!" from Hixon. Hah!

      And I don't get the cranes either, and that's the truth!
      AL (Jigen) in:
      Faith/Trust
      Courage/Love
      Awareness/Action!

      I sat today

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      • Seishin the Elder
        Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 521

        #18
        Re: 8/13 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Buddhanandi

        "Leave aside worldly opinions and religious opinions as well, no matter how strongly bastioned they may be by cultural expectation, by study of the scriptures, by meditation experience. Leave aside marketpalce and monastery. Evry thought, mo matter how sublime....remains in the ambiguous realm of opinion and discussion." Nixon

        ...And we have just read that debate and discussion of Truth is futile.

        Boy did this chapter sting, cause I think I know a lot of stuff and sometimes get puffed up about what I've seen, where I've been, who I know, what I've read, what letters are after my name! Someday I'll cross that stream wherein I'll see my reflection clearly, or perhaps find someone like Vasumitra who will gently snap me across the nose.

        Gassho,

        Seishin Kyrill

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        • Shogen
          Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 301

          #19
          Re: 8/13 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Buddhanandi

          Without an adequate supply of oxygen and nourishment we would perish. What's left to debate?
          Silence, not having judgement nor intention, is the truth. Gassho zak

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          • Seishin the Elder
            Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 521

            #20
            Re: 8/13 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Buddhanandi

            This was supposed to be posted for BUDDHAMITRA:


            How marvelous! The Master Buddhanandi, once a garrulous debater who traveled the world talking and even challenged his own master, finds his successor in one who has never uttered a word or taken a step outside of his house. And yet they shared the light of Transmission as equals.

            Cook says something of extreme interest when he says that the Living Buddha is seac=rching for a successor who is prepared to reincarnate them while they are still alive, as opposed to trying to find the reincarnation after the Master's death. He says that the Master and the "full incarnation of his or her awakened mind" are equals and best friends here on earth sometimes for a long time. So the Light of Transmission is not a jewel that is passed from one master to another, but rather something like a flowing body of water they both may bath in for some time, maybe along with others(?).


            Gassho,

            Seishin Kyrill

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            • Fuken
              Member
              • Sep 2006
              • 435

              #21
              Re: 8/13 TRANSMISSION of the LIGHT: to Buddhanandi

              My thought doodles on this reading:
              What kind of conversation is meaningful?
              I think Vasumitra's conversation with Buddhaanandi is quite meaningful.

              Do not be confused by selflessness! I have enjoyed nondual conversations and readings quite a bit, but in the end I wonder if those conversations are meaningful.

              Cast aside literalism. (That can be a tough one for this guy who has a pretty strong attachment to rules and regulations.)

              Ideas about the truth are not it.
              Yours in practice,
              Jordan ("Fu Ken" translates to "Wind Sword", Dharma name givin to me by Jundo, I am so glad he did not name me Wind bag.)

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