The Zen Master's Dance - 2 - How To Read Dogen (Top of p. 5 to Middle of p. 12)

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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 41933

    The Zen Master's Dance - 2 - How To Read Dogen (Top of p. 5 to Middle of p. 12)

    Hi Dogenites,

    I am anticipating to post a new reading every week (sometimes two week) on Fridays ...

    We will continue our Dance this week with the chapter called "How To Read Dogen," up to the middle of page 12 (for our e-readers, stopping before the section "And Thus This Book").

    In this section, I describe how it is necessary to understand some basic Buddhism or Mahayana Buddhist teachings, and then how Dogen wilds up the language and images to express the teachings in new light, never leaving the teaching but bringing forth new dimensions through his playful game (sometimes with intended results, but with sometimes unexpected revelations that just pop out of his words). I give an example from the Lotus Sutra in the book, about a flying Pagoda (I know that some people don't care for the fancifulness of the Lotus, but I often tell folks that, like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings or Willy Wonka's tale of good and bad kids, the wild imagery is just a vehicle to describe something fantastically fantastic!).

    Here is another section of the Lotus Sutra, a pretty straight parable about someone who has a wonderful treasure within (his "Buddha Nature" or original enlightenment) but just does not know it:

    Suppose there were a man who came to the house of a close friend and went to sleep after becoming intoxicated with wine. The intimate friend, having to go out on official business, sews a priceless jewel into the inside of his friend’s garment and, giving it to him, leaves. But the man who was drunk and asleep is totally unaware of this. After getting up he leaves and roams around until he arrives in another country. Although he diligently seeks for food and clothing they are very difficult to obtain. He is satisfied if he just obtains a very meager amount. Later on the intimate friend happens to meet this man. Seeing him, he says: O poor fellow! How have you come to this state through lack of food and clothing? Once, on such-and-such a day in such-and-such a month and year, I sewed a priceless jewel into the inside of your garment, wanting to make things easier for you and to let you enjoy the desires of the five senses as much as you wished. It is still there, although you aren’t aware of it, and you seek your livelihood with great effort and hardship! You have been very foolish. Sell this jewel and use it to buy what you need. From now on you will know neither poverty nor want and can live as you wish.
    Inspired by Dogen's kind of word games, mixing and matching images and phrases, going for double-entendres or turning things up-side-down, rewrite the above in something like Dogen's style of writing to bring out this point of our Buddha Nature already being with us, we are already enlightened but just don't know it. Rather than being too rational about it, let the sound and feeling and chance "whatever pops out of the word play" convey the feeling for that message. Look at the Lotus Sutra passage quoted in my book, and Dogen's rewriting of it, for examples of the kind of word play you should do.

    Oh, and try not to look at the examples of what others have done in this thread before posting your own example. After, you can look at the others, however, nobody is graded on this! Just have fun.

    So there is not confusion about the assignment, please pay special attention: It is not to write something really original this time. The point of the exercise is to get a little feel for Dogen's style and manner of expression by mimicking his style. So, please be sure to try this:

    Go back to the chapter, please, and look at the original "Lotus Sutra" passage. Then, look at what D.J. Dogen did with it in his remix passage, what he did with the elements of the story such as "treasure stupa" "sitting inside the stupa" "springing out of Vulture Peak" "two hundred and fifty yojanas" and the like, and how he stirred that all up. Study his grammar, and how he mixed or reinterpreted the various elements, and do something like that with the passage I assigned. If you are not sure what to do, just borrow Dogen's sentence structure, and just switch the elements from the old story with the elements of the new story that I assigned.
    ORIGINAL:

    At this time, before the Buddha, a stupa of seven treasures , five hundred yojanas in height and two hundred and fifty yojanas in length and breadth, sprang up from the earth and abided in the sky . . . When that Buddha [Abundant Treasures] was practicing as a bodhisattva in the past, he deeply vowed: “After I have realized Buddhahood and died, if anywhere in the ten directions there is any place where the Lotus Sutra is being preached, my stupa shall spring out and appear in that place so that I may hear the sutra’s preaching.”

    DOGENIZATION:

    [Dōgen says:] There is the turning of the flower of Dharma in the appearance “before the Buddha” of the “treasure stupa,” which is a “height of five hundred yojanas.” There is the turning of the flower of Dharma that is the “Buddha sitting inside the stupa,” whose breadth is “two hundred and fifty yojanas.” There is a turning of the flower of Dharma by springing forth from the earth and abiding in the earth, whereby mind is without obstructions and matter is without limits. There is the turning of the flower of Dharma in springing out of the sky and abiding in the earth, which is limited by the eyes and limited by the body. Vulture Peak is within the stupa, and the treasure stupa is on Vulture Peak. The treasure stupa is a stupa of treasure abiding in space, and space opens space for the treasure stupa. The timeless Buddha within the stupa shares a seat with the Buddha of Vulture Peak, and the Buddha of
    Vulture Peak shares the realization of the Buddha within the stupa. When the Buddha of Vulture Peak experiences this state within the stupa together with body, mind, and all things, he also enters into the state of the turning of the flower of Dharma. [. . .] This “within the stupa,” “before the Buddha,” “the treasure stupa,” and “space” are not limited to Vulture Peak; they are not limited to the realm of phenomena; they are not limited to some halfway
    stage; neither are they the whole world. Nor are they matters of some fixed “place in the Dharma.” They are simply “non-thinking.”

    If it helps, for those who don't wish to try it "free form," I made a "PAINT BY NUMBERS" version where you can take parts of the "hidden jewel" parable to plug in here ...

    ELEMENTS include "a man" "came to the house" "close friend" "went to sleep" "becoming intoxicated" "wine." "intimate friend" "go out" "official business" "sews" "priceless jewel" "his friend’s garment" "roams around" "arrives in another country." "poor fellow!" "lack of food and clothing" "the desires of the five senses" "seek your livelihood" "great effort and hardship" "very foolish" "Sell this jewel" "use it to buy what you need" "neither poverty nor want" "live as you wish."

    Usually, this story is taken to mean that the "jewel" is the Buddha Nature which we all have within us but do not know, so we live foolishly and squander our lives.

    Just take those elements and plug them into the Dogen "paint by numbers" below to get a sense of what Dogen does with the elements of traditional Buddhist stories.

    [Dōgen says:] There is the [ACTION FROM STORY] of Dharma in the [SCENE FROM STORY] of the [THING FROM STORY] which is a [DESCRIPTION FROM STORY] There is the[ACTION FROM STORY] of Dharma that is the [ANOTHER SCENE FROM STORY] whose[ANOTHER DESCRIPTION FROM STORY]There is a [ACTION FROM STORY] of Dharma by [SOME ACTION FROM STORY] and [DIFFERENT ACTION FROM STORY] whereby mind is without obstructions and matter is without limits. There is the [ACTION FROM STORY] of Dharma in[SOME ACTION FROM STORY] and [DIFFERENT ACTION FROM STORY], which is limited by the eyes and limited by the body. [PLACE IN STORY] is within [ANOTHER PLACE IN STORY], and the [ANOTHER PLACE IN STORY] is on [PLACE IN STORY]. The [PLACE IN STORY] is a [THING IN STORY] abiding in space, and space opens space for the [PLACE IN STORY]. The timeless Buddha within the [A PLACE IN STORY] shares a [THING IN STORY] with the Buddha of [SOMETHING FROM STORY], and the Buddha of [SOMETHING ELSE FROM STORY] shares the realization of the Buddha within the [A PLACE OR THING IN STORY]. When the Buddha of [SOMETHING FROM STORY] experiences this state within the [THING OR PLACE FROM STORY] together with body, mind, and all things, he also enters into the state of the [ACTION FROM STORY]. [. . .] This “within the [PLACE OR THING FROM STORY],” “before the [THING OR PLACE FROM STORY],” the [THING FROM STORY],” and “space” are not limited to [PLACE FROM STORY]; they are not limited to the [BUDDHIST PHRASE OF YOUR CHOOSING]; they are not limited to some [OTHER BUDDHIST PHRASE OF YOUR CHOOSING]; neither are they [BUDDHIST DESCRIPTION OF REALITY]. Nor are they matters of some fixed [BUDDHIST PHRASE.] They are simply “non-thinking.”

    Gassho, J
    stlah
    Last edited by Jundo; 06-05-2025, 12:49 AM.
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  • Hosui
    Member
    • Sep 2024
    • 131

    #2
    "For the time being there is a close friend becoming intoxicated with wine. For the time being there is wine becoming intoxicated by a close friend. For the time being a jewel is sewn into a garment, and a garment is sewn into a jewel. The jewel and the garment, the being drunk and the sleeping, the unawareness of the plant and the arriving in another country - all are being time. You would do well to consider this point. Do not doubt that diligently seeking even only a meagre amount of food is also being time. There once was a time when great master Jundo of Tsukuba, in Kanto prefecture, who was a disciple of the countless great sewing buddha ancestors of of the past, addressed an assembly of monks and lay folk, saying, 'O poor fellows! What gives?! How’s it jiving? A slogan on a tattoo alone won’t cut it, for it is how we walk the walk that proves the whole wild trip'. Thereupon a lay follower asked, 'When exactly is such-and-such a day, and such-and-such a month and year?' The master replied, “Suchness-and-suchness in a day, and suchness-and-suchness in a month are also being time; all the sewing you can muster, all the garments you can wear, all the wearing unawares are also being time. Making things easier for you, making you easier for things: letting you enjoy the five senses and letting the five senses enjoy you - these are also being time.” Know that being time is your garment. You are your garment, and the Treasure of the garment is you! You should not waste time recognising this. We must recognise - as we would if our garment were on fire - this garment as an Old Buddha raising a fist. Sewing words in a straight line of stitching is being time, sewing words together online is being time.You will have been very foolish if you believe the sewn jewel will protect you from hardship, poverty and want, when you already wear the great and wondrous clothes of enlightenment, formless and embracing every Treasure."

    Gassho
    Hosui
    sat/lah today
    Last edited by Hosui; 05-31-2025, 04:18 PM.

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    • Jundo
      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
      • Apr 2006
      • 41933

      #3
      Hosui, you jumped ahead a few chapters to "Being-Time," but it is very nicely done, I feel.

      Gassho, J
      stlah
      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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      • Jundo
        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
        • Apr 2006
        • 41933

        #4
        Originally posted by Bob-Midwest
        Check this out -

        Lost, lost in the shallow wonders, they arrive at the doorstep of the seemingly familiar, shyly, unknowingly seeking shelter only to slumber further into a dreamless unconsciousness.

        The world calls and away the hoped port of refuge flees, but not before leaving a key, a near priceless ticket off this looping ride of despair. Only slightly out of sight, but nevertheless unnoticed, this gift remains within reach as slumber evaporates into a continued cycle of fruitless wandering.

        A chance encounter reveals what could be known, should be known, will be known.

        It is now known, but remains apart by stitching so thin as to sew great doubt.

        Live as you wish, say both the wise and fools.

        bob

        sat, lah
        It is a lovely poem, but not the assignment for this one, Bob. Might you try again?

        So there is not confusion about the assignment, please pay special attention: It is not to write something really original this time. The point of the exercise is to get a little feel for Dogen's style and manner of expression by mimicking his style. So, please be sure to try this:

        Go back to the chapter, please, and look at the original "Lotus Sutra" passage. Then, look at what D.J. Dogen did with it in his remix passage, what he did with the elements of the story such as "treasure stupa" "sitting inside the stupa" "springing out of Vulture Peak" "two hundred and fifty yojanas" and the like, and how he stirred that all up. Study his grammar, and how he mixed or reinterpreted the various elements, and do something like that with the passage I assigned. If you are not sure what to do, just borrow Dogen's sentence structure, and just switch the elements from the old story with the elements of the new story that I assigned.

        THE POINT IS TO WRITE AND SOUND LIKE DOGEN, not to write your own interesting story!
        Gassho, Jundo
        stlah
        ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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        • Heikyo
          Member
          • Dec 2014
          • 108

          #5
          Hello everyone. I found this was very difficult and, being a scientist, I have no idea about using the same grammar, sentence structure and style as Dogen. Here is my stab at it, apologies in advance if it’s way off the mark…!

          There is the turning of the flower of Dharma which is the jewel carried but not seen. The jewel is a treasure in space and time, which open for the jewel. The jewel shares this space and time with you when you are looking for food and shelter. The meagre food and shelter you get are also the jewel. Your hardship is the jewel. The jewel is you, so do not sell or throw it away! The jewel is you, so sell it or throw it away!

          Gassho
          Heikyo
          sat today, LAH

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          • Furyu
            Member
            • Jul 2023
            • 289

            #6
            Well, here goes.

            An intoxicated man receives a Dharma jewel in the fabric of his baggy jeans. The gem is woven in the fabric of time and the intoxication is sewn into the fabric of his pants. Drunken hands don’t hold jewels, so the gem holds the man’s intoxication before and after it is sewn, before and after it is seen. A glowing Dharma gift in the giver’s mind, a myriad of lost and found opportunities in the fabric of being. The wish-fulfilling gem grants the meager gifts and the magnificent gifts before they are wished for, already in the fabric of the hands and of the mind. The close friend is all Buddhas of the past present and future sewing himself within the gem and appearing as the fabric of time and space. When the intoxication stops, the true gem appears and is freed of itself.

            Gassho,
            Fūryū
            sat-lah
            風流 - Fūryū - Windflow

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 41933

              #7
              Originally posted by Heikyo
              Hello everyone. I found this was very difficult and, being a scientist, I have no idea about using the same grammar, sentence structure and style as Dogen. Here is my stab at it, apologies in advance if it’s way off the mark…!

              There is the turning of the flower of Dharma which is the jewel carried but not seen. The jewel is a treasure in space and time, which open for the jewel. The jewel shares this space and time with you when you are looking for food and shelter. The meagre food and shelter you get are also the jewel. Your hardship is the jewel. The jewel is you, so do not sell or throw it away! The jewel is you, so sell it or throw it away!

              Gassho
              Heikyo
              sat today, LAH
              That's it. You have the gist.

              See the expanded explanation and "Paint By Numbers" version below, and maybe try more.

              Gassho, J
              stlah

              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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              • Jundo
                Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                • Apr 2006
                • 41933

                #8
                Originally posted by Furyu
                Well, here goes.

                An intoxicated man receives a Dharma jewel in the fabric of his baggy jeans. The gem is woven in the fabric of time and the intoxication is sewn into the fabric of his pants. Drunken hands don’t hold jewels, so the gem holds the man’s intoxication before and after it is sewn, before and after it is seen. A glowing Dharma gift in the giver’s mind, a myriad of lost and found opportunities in the fabric of being. The wish-fulfilling gem grants the meager gifts and the magnificent gifts before they are wished for, already in the fabric of the hands and of the mind. The close friend is all Buddhas of the past present and future sewing himself within the gem and appearing as the fabric of time and space. When the intoxication stops, the true gem appears and is freed of itself.

                Gassho,
                Fūryū
                sat-lah
                Nice.

                Gassho, Jundo
                stlah
                ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                • Jundo
                  Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 41933

                  #9
                  Everyone, I added this to the lesson to help make it clearer, included a "Paint by Numbers" version for those who don't with to do it "free form" ...

                  ~~~~

                  So there is not confusion about the assignment, please pay special attention: It is not to write something really original this time. The point of the exercise is to get a little feel for Dogen's style and manner of expression by mimicking his style. So, please be sure to try this:

                  Go back to the chapter, please, and look at the original "Lotus Sutra" passage. Then, look at what D.J. Dogen did with it in his remix passage, what he did with the elements of the story such as "treasure stupa" "sitting inside the stupa" "springing out of Vulture Peak" "two hundred and fifty yojanas" and the like, and how he stirred that all up. Study his grammar, and how he mixed or reinterpreted the various elements, and do something like that with the passage I assigned. If you are not sure what to do, just borrow Dogen's sentence structure, and just switch the elements from the old story with the elements of the new story that I assigned.
                  ORIGINAL:

                  At this time, before the Buddha, a stupa of seven treasures , five hundred yojanas in height and two hundred and fifty yojanas in length and breadth, sprang up from the earth and abided in the sky . . . When that Buddha [Abundant Treasures] was practicing as a bodhisattva in the past, he deeply vowed: “After I have realized Buddhahood and died, if anywhere in the ten directions there is any place where the Lotus Sutra is being preached, my stupa shall spring out and appear in that place so that I may hear the sutra’s preaching.”

                  DOGENIZATION:

                  [Dōgen says:] There is the turning of the flower of Dharma in the appearance “before the Buddha” of the “treasure stupa,” which is a “height of five hundred yojanas.” There is the turning of the flower of Dharma that is the “Buddha sitting inside the stupa,” whose breadth is “two hundred and fifty yojanas.” There is a turning of the flower of Dharma by springing forth from the earth and abiding in the earth, whereby mind is without obstructions and matter is without limits. There is the turning of the flower of Dharma in springing out of the sky and abiding in the earth, which is limited by the eyes and limited by the body. Vulture Peak is within the stupa, and the treasure stupa is on Vulture Peak. The treasure stupa is a stupa of treasure abiding in space, and space opens space for the treasure stupa. The timeless Buddha within the stupa shares a seat with the Buddha of Vulture Peak, and the Buddha of Vulture Peak shares the realization of the Buddha within the stupa. When the Buddha of Vulture Peak experiences this state within the stupa together with body, mind, and all things, he also enters into the state of the turning of the flower of Dharma. [. . .] This “within the stupa,” “before the Buddha,” “the treasure stupa,” and “space” are not limited to Vulture Peak; they are not limited to the realm of phenomena; they are not limited to some halfway stage; neither are they the whole world. Nor are they matters of some fixed “place in the Dharma.” They are simply “non-thinking.”

                  THE POINT IS TO WRITE AND SOUND LIKE DOGEN, not to write your own interesting story!

                  If it helps, for those who don't wish to try it "free form," I made a "PAINT BY NUMBERS" version where you can take parts of the "hidden jewel" parable to plug in here ...

                  [Dōgen says:] There is the [ACTION FROM STORY] of Dharma in the [SCENE FROM STORY] of the [THING FROM STORY] which is a [DESCRIPTION FROM STORY] There is the[ACTION FROM STORY] of Dharma that is the [ANOTHER SCENE FROM STORY] whose[ANOTHER DESCRIPTION FROM STORY]There is a [ACTION FROM STORY] of Dharma by [SOME ACTION FROM STORY] and [DIFFERENT ACTION FROM STORY] whereby mind is without obstructions and matter is without limits. There is the [ACTION FROM STORY] of Dharma in[SOME ACTION FROM STORY] and [DIFFERENT ACTION FROM STORY], which is limited by the eyes and limited by the body. [PLACE IN STORY] is within [ANOTHER PLACE IN STORY], and the [ANOTHER PLACE IN STORY] is on [PLACE IN STORY]. The [PLACE IN STORY] is a [THING IN STORY] abiding in space, and space opens space for the [PLACE IN STORY]. The timeless Buddha within the [A PLACE IN STORY] shares a [THING IN STORY] with the Buddha of [SOMETHING FROM STORY], and the Buddha of [SOMETHING ELSE FROM STORY] shares the realization of the Buddha within the [A PLACE OR THING IN STORY]. When the Buddha of [SOMETHING FROM STORY] experiences this state within the [THING OR PLACE FROM STORY] together with body, mind, and all things, he also enters into the state of the [ACTION FROM STORY]. [. . .] This “within the [PLACE OR THING FROM STORY],” “before the [THING OR PLACE FROM STORY],” the [THING FROM STORY],” and “space” are not limited to [PLACE FROM STORY]; they are not limited to the [BUDDHIST PHRASE OF YOUR CHOOSING]; they are not limited to some [OTHER BUDDHIST PHRASE OF YOUR CHOOSING]; neither are they [BUDDHIST DESCRIPTION OF REALITY]. Nor are they matters of some fixed [BUDDHIST PHRASE.] They are simply “non-thinking.”

                  Gassho, J
                  stlah​
                  Last edited by Jundo; 06-02-2025, 12:45 AM.
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                  • Jundo
                    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 41933

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FNJ
                    Dōgen says:

                    There is the stitching of drunken moonlight into the robe of not-having-been-born, in the wine-snooze of a jewel too small to see and too loud to wear.
                    There is the vowing of Dharma that is the friend leaving but not going, sewing while unsewing, jewel inside no jewel, robe outside the robe that is not a robe.
                    There is a waking of Dharma by forgetting to sleep and dreaming the dream of looking for breakfast in a sky made of buttons, whereby poverty is a flavor and wealth is a holy sock.
                    There is the scattering of Dharma in the marketplace of wind and the monastery of lint, which are limited by the eyes that do not open and the body that is still sewing itself shut.

                    The friend is within the thread, and the thread is sewn through the friend.
                    The hidden jewel is a hidden-ness not hidden, stitched into the unstitched stitch, abiding in the armpit of space, and space unrolls its sleeves for the friend it forgot.
                    The timeless Buddha inside the jewel shares a breakfast burrito with the Buddha of Having-No-Pants, and the Buddha of Having-No-Pants shares the realization of having never worn the robe.

                    When the Buddha of Having-No-Pants experiences this state inside the state of forgetting where his robe went, with his body, toast, and morning breath, he also enters into the state of the turning of the sock of Dharma.

                    This “within the lint,” “before the threading,” “the invisible zipper,” and “space” are not limited to robes or jewels or roving Buddhas; they are not limited to Nirvana-in-a-teacup; they are not limited to awakening that remembers itself; neither are they confined by notions of laundry day or liberation.
                    Nor are they matters of some fixed dryer cycle.
                    They are simply “non-wearing.”

                    Sat LAH
                    gassho
                    Niall
                    It starts off good, but then wanders into extraneous things like arm pits and zippers and the dryer cycle.

                    So, try again more seriously.

                    Gassho, Jundo
                    stlah
                    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                    • FNJ
                      Member
                      • May 2025
                      • 81

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jundo

                      It starts off good, but then wanders into extraneous things like arm pits and zippers and the dryer cycle.

                      So, try again more seriously.

                      Gassho, Jundo
                      stlah
                      Alright attempt number 2

                      Dōgen say:

                      There is the sewing of Dharma in the drunken sleep beneath the rafters of the ten thousand-mile robe, which is a vow sewn shut before it could be worn.
                      There is the stitching of Dharma that is the robe forgotten in the morning, whose thread was pulled across decades without the tailor ever returning to finish the job.
                      There is a turning of the Dharma jewel by waking in another jewl and walking without map, whereby mind is without confirmation and robe is forever without preceptor.
                      There is the seeking of Dharma in mendicancy and self-refusal, which is limited by the eyes that once gazed upward and the hunger that whispered "not today" and “never seomone like you”

                      The robe is within the jewel, and the jewel is sewn into the forgetting of self.
                      The jewel abides in the seam of wandering east, and space opens for the face that has never changed.
                      The timeless horizontal and vertical within the jewel shares the realization of the Buddhas who left before the ceremony had begun.
                      When the Buddha of forgotten names experiences this state within the jewel together with the demon hornry rabbit, he also enters into the state of the turning of the jewel of Dharma.

                      This “within the robe,” “before the refusal,” “the hidden jewel,” and “space” are not limited to halls or sutras; they are not limited to names on lists; they are not limited to temples or errancy; neither are they matters of station or permission.

                      They are simply “not-thinking.”

                      Sat LAH
                      Gassho
                      Niall

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                      • Jundo
                        Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 41933

                        #12
                        Much better. Thank you.

                        In Dogen's word play, evocative images pop out, conveying Buddhist messages both intended and sometimes surprising and unintended. I got that from your piece. Nice.

                        Gassho, J
                        stlah

                        PS - Not sure where the "demon hornry rabbit" hopped in from, but that's okay.
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                        • FNJ
                          Member
                          • May 2025
                          • 81

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jundo
                          Much better. Thank you.

                          In Dogen's word play, evocative images pop out, conveying Buddhist messages both intended and sometimes surprising and unintended. I got that from your piece. Nice.

                          Gassho, J
                          stlah

                          PS - Not sure where the "demon hornry rabbit" hopped in from, but that's okay.
                          "Muchū Setsumu"

                          Sorry I was getting mixed up with something-- Nagarjuna... Mūlamadhyamakakārikā (Fundamental Verses of the Middle Way)

                          Chapter 7, Verse 17:

                          > “A rabbit's horn, the child of a barren woman, and a sky-flower — these are mere names, mere designations.
                          They do not exist in reality.”

                          But I feel like I've read Dogen reference it somewhere.

                          Sat LAH
                          Gassho
                          Niall
                          Last edited by FNJ; 06-03-2025, 11:28 AM.

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                          • Shoshin
                            Member
                            • Jul 2024
                            • 384

                            #14
                            Hi!
                            I'm a bit confused. I try to see the original text hidden in Dogen's text to see the parallelisms. But I can't. Of course I see how some elements of the text are the same. But I cannot see which parts are turned in which parts and how. They seem completely different texts to me.
                            ​​​​​
                            Actually, I cannot understand the symbolic meaning of either text, I don't understand the meaning of the symbols and metaphors. So, I'm unable to write something that means the same.

                            I'm sorry, Jundo because you obviously put lots of energy in helping us accomplish the assignment but this exercise requires more brain power than the one that I have at the moment.
                            I don't even know if another day my brain will be able to do it but I promise to try again in a few days or weeks...

                            ​​​​

                            Gassho
                            Satlah

                            ​​​​
                            Shōshin - Pine Heart 松心

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                            • Houzan
                              Member
                              • Dec 2022
                              • 627

                              #15
                              I liked this exercise, but not easy! Maybe I’m missing the mark, but still fun pretending to be Dogen

                              Actualizing wine, the jewel of intoxication. Actualizing sleep, the jewel of sleep. With nothing to gain and nothing to lose, the moon shines, wine drinks, sleep sleeps. A 15 foot golden body rests.

                              An intimate friend, drunk on pride, pities the man. Blinded by flowers in the sky, and ears filled with cotton, he sews a priced possession into the holy robes.

                              How can realization be given? How can something be gained? With barely the skin intact, he is worlds apart from the marrow. What could this man possibly understand by the ancestor’s reply to the Emperor: “no merit whatsoever”?

                              Yet, flowers are dancing jewels. Cottoned pride shines. Needle and thread sparkles.

                              The way is not difficult for those who have no preferences. With gyoji as his most priced possession, a meager bowl at noon transforms into a feast. What use could a jewel possibly have? The jewel shines not in being found, but in losing the search.

                              Gassho, Hōzan
                              satlah

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