SIT-A-LONG with Jundo: Why Zen Folks FAIL!! (5) - Watching The Clock Rackin Up Points

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  • adahee
    Member
    • Jun 2020
    • 28

    #31
    Thanks for bumping this, Jundo.
    This is actually why I took a break some years back.
    I was sitting just to keep up the statistics on my Insight Timer application.
    It felt like the statics were more important than the sitting.
    The break helped me realize the trap and I returned to my practice without the app.

    After some years I've started to use the app again, but I no longer track the statistics.

    Gassho,
    steve

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    • Jakuden
      Member
      • Jun 2015
      • 6141

      #32
      Originally posted by adahee
      Thanks for bumping this, Jundo.
      This is actually why I took a break some years back.
      I was sitting just to keep up the statistics on my Insight Timer application.
      It felt like the statics were more important than the sitting.
      The break helped me realize the trap and I returned to my practice without the app.

      After some years I've started to use the app again, but I no longer track the statistics.

      Gassho,
      steve
      Yea insight timer can be a trap that way, especially for those of us with perfectionist tendencies [emoji846] I still have to resist the impulse to log a session I did off the app just to keep a streak going or rack up a star [emoji23]

      Gassho,
      Jakuden


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      • Tosei
        Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 210

        #33
        and there it is. Many thanks for this Jundo.

        Gassho,

        Peter
        stlah
        東西 - Tōsei - East West
        there is only what is, and it is all miraculous

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        • Teiro
          Member
          • Jan 2018
          • 113

          #34
          Thank you, Jundo.

          Gassho
          Teiro

          Sat
          Teiro

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          • Sunscythe
            Member
            • Nov 2020
            • 2

            #35
            Thank you, Jundo. This really spoke to me; Needed to hear it.

            Gassho,

            Nicole
            STLAH

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            • Jeff Naylor
              Member
              • May 2020
              • 22

              #36
              Thank you Jundo,

              Gassho,
              STLah

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              • GrasshopperMan17
                Member
                • Jan 2021
                • 69

                #37
                Thank you for this Jundo. I oftentimes get caught up in the time of the sitting, and catch myself looking at the clock every 3 minutes or so, much to my chagrin.. I'm trying to do more chair sitting so i can sit longer and give myself more of a chance to get lost in the moment and just "be" for a bit. Thank you for this reminder.

                Gassho, John
                ST/LAH

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                • JimInBC
                  Member
                  • Jan 2021
                  • 125

                  #38
                  I remember being quite upset when a streak of over a year on my meditation timer was broken. Reason the streak was broken? I was on retreat at a monastery that didn't allow electronic devices.

                  Gassho,
                  Jim
                  Sat Today/LAH
                  Last edited by JimInBC; 01-24-2021, 08:08 PM.
                  No matter how much zazen we do, poor people do not become wealthy, and poverty does not become something easy to endure.
                  Kōshō Uchiyama, Opening the Hand of Thought

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                  • Getchi
                    Member
                    • May 2015
                    • 612

                    #39
                    I bookmarked this thread years ago, as Jundo said - I never needed it after.

                    SaT Today
                    Lent A Hand.

                    Grateful for the option.
                    Nothing to do? Why not Sit?

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                    • Tobiishi
                      Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 461

                      #40
                      It occurs to me that my attachment to this body is entirely arbitrary. All the evidence is subjective.

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                      • Matthew
                        Member
                        • Feb 2022
                        • 17

                        #41
                        Jundo,

                        This video is what I needed tonight. Sitting with euros/kiwis I felt myself struggling to stay awake after so many cycles of day shift/night shift/day shift/night shift. After maybe 15 min I logged off, but maybe today that was enough.

                        Gassho
                        Matthew
                        Sat today and lent a hand

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                        • Meiun
                          Member
                          • Feb 2022
                          • 96

                          #42
                          Thank you for this, a valuable reminder.....

                          Gassho

                          Mike
                          Let everything happen to you: Beauty and terror. Just keep going. No feeling is final. - Rainer Maria Rilke

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                          • Chikyou
                            Member
                            • May 2022
                            • 671

                            #43


                            I sat without the timer for the past two days. It does feel different, although I can't explain it.

                            Gassho
                            Sat

                            -Kelly
                            Chikyō 知鏡
                            (KellyLM)

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                            • Jundo
                              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 40693

                              #44
                              Originally posted by KellyLM


                              I sat without the timer for the past two days. It does feel different, although I can't explain it.

                              Gassho
                              Sat

                              -Kelly
                              Oh, you can sit with the timer, set for however many minutes with the bell to ring at start and finish ...

                              ... but while you are sitting, just drop all sense of time, and starts and finishes.

                              Gassho, J

                              STLah
                              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                              • Chikyou
                                Member
                                • May 2022
                                • 671

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Jundo
                                Oh, you can sit with the timer, set for however many minutes with the bell to ring at start and finish ...

                                ... but while you are sitting, just drop all sense of time, and starts and finishes.

                                Gassho, J

                                STLah


                                It is nice not to even think of the length of sitting, as others have mentioned, taking this out of the equation removes the possibility of thinking of it (however, I still have to be not-late to work when I'm sitting with no-time so I will likely continue to use a timer during the week.)

                                Gassho,
                                Sat

                                -Kelly
                                Chikyō 知鏡
                                (KellyLM)

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