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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40953

    Dropping the Mike on "Dropping Body-Mind"

    Master Dogen often spoke of Shikantaza Zazen as a way of "dropping body-mind". For example, in the Genjo Koan, he famously wrote the words, "To study the self is to forget the self. To forget the self is to be actualized by the myriad things. When actualized by the myriad things, your body and mind as well as the bodies and minds of others drop away."

    But what exactly is this state to which he refers?

    l have heard a variety of explanations, many of which seem on the money, some far from the mark. Actually, l do not feel it so hard to explain despite the confusion. "Dropping bodymind" is not so hard to explain at all if we just recall the division, fear, friction and longing of the human condition (Dukkha) that is the basic disease that sentient beings are to be liberated from on this Buddhist Path. ln a nutshell, sentient beings feel fundamentally separate and individual from the rest of the "not self" world, some of which "others" we love and long for, some of which we fear and run from, often feeling friction and conflict (and sometimes anger toward) so many of the things and other people in that "not-self" world. We fear for our deaths, feel loss and gain. We are constantly judging the things, people and experiences of life according to how they please us or do not please us (and to what degrees). This sense of a judging, sometime happy and sometimes sad, sometimes content but often discontent, "separate self" manifests through our body (things it craves such as air, water, food and sex, freedom from pain and much more) and the 10,000 things endlessly craved or judged by the thoughts and emotions of the mind. (Actually, it is wrong to speak of body and mind individually because they are integrated, thus Buddhists tend to speak of "body-mind.")

    "Dropping body-mind" is simply to cure, reverse or drop away all the separation and discontent described above. lt ain't rocket science.

    lt begins as the hard borders that separate self/not-self soften, or fully drop away. lt takes two to tangle, conflict and feel friction, and a singularity just cannot conflict and war with itself. The whole of reality is found to flow in and out of the whole of reality, as so thoroughly a singularity and wholeness that tension and conflict are impossible. Friction is replaced by flowing in which, not only are we individuals flowing along, but moreso are the flowing itself flowing. Death is not possible (nor is birth), because the whole does not truly come and go (only the appearances of separate things come and go). There is nothing to long for because, in the wholeness of the all which is all, nothing can be lacking, and all is just as it is. The separate self with its longings, dissatisfactions and fears (arising in the body and mind) is put out of a job. All is as it is, nothing lacking, nothing more in need of doing.

    Shikantaza is our method to drop the longings, dissatisfactions and fears of body-mind because we sit as total completion, with nothing more to attain, no other place to be, no more to do, total equanimity, nothing lacking in sitting itself. (Thus we call this a "non-method," because a "method" is a means to get or attain something, and this sitting as Buddha sitting sitting Buddha is the very dropping away of all need to get, to go, to grab, to reach and attain. Furthermore, this is so much beyond some simple "being in the zone" like a runner or soldier (l have heard such descriptions), because it is truly the experience of being the whole of reality, the whole universe and every moment of time, every tiny atom and the farthest star as this body of tongue, eyes, heart and hand. Every atom and instant of time is fully held in every other atom and instant of time flowing flowing (the "Zone" is truly boundless, the whole universe and then some) ... and that includes every atom and instant of our world and our life.

    ln Shikantaza, one assumes a stable, balanced, comfortable posture and then "just forget about it." Resistance to the state of the body is dropped away or forgotten. This is "dropping off body." ln Shikantaza, we drop away all desires, needs, feelings of lack, demands and hopes for what "should be," fears for what may be (fully content in the equanimity of "just what is.") Thoughts and emotions are not grabbed or entangling, and we are not their prisoner. We let them go and "pay em no nevermind." This is "dropping of mind."

    Bodymind dropped away, dropped away bodymind. This is the power of Shikantaza, Just Sitting, without a drop lacking.

    Of course, getting up from the Zazen sitting cushion, we return to this daily life and ordinary world of self and other, me and you, things we love and things we do not, ups and downs, goals and striving, lack and hunger, win and loose, war and peace, sickness and health, birth and death ... even though, we now realize, these are not other than the Wholeness of division dropped away in other guise. No birth and death, and yet birth and death (death yet no death as one!), and all the rest are "not two," and never have been all along.

    Our Practice is just to figure out how it all fits together, as this "dropped away bodymind" resumes the day-to-day in a world of bodies and minds, lack, fear, coming and going and all the rest.

    Very simple.

    Gassho, J

    STLah
    Last edited by Jundo; 08-26-2019, 01:06 AM.
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  • Kevin M
    Member
    • Dec 2018
    • 190

    #2
    Originally posted by Jundo
    ln a nutshell, sentient beings feel fundamentally separate and individual from the rest of the "not self" world ... We are constantly judging the things, people and experiences of life according to how the please us or do not please us (and to what degrees). ...

    "Dropping body-mind" is simply to cure, reverse or drop away all the separation and discontent described above. lt ain't rocket science. :-) ...

    Shikantaza is our method to drop the longings, dissatisfactions and fears of body-mind because we sit as total completion ... ln Shikantaza, one assumes a stable, balanced, comfortable posture and then "forget about it." ...

    Of course, getting up from the Zazen sitting cushion, we return to this daily life and ordinary world of self and other ... Our Practice is just to figure out how it all fits together as this "dropped away bodymind" resumes is day-to-day in a world of bodies and minds, lack, fear, coming and going and all the rest.
    Great way to start Sunday. Thank you Jundo

    Gassho,
    Kevin
    #S@2Day

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    • Horin
      Member
      • Dec 2017
      • 385

      #3
      beautiful, jundo.
      thanks for that great explanation.

      few days ago, i just read something by sekkei harada, that i found very interesting about shikantaza and dropping off body and mind:

      Consider a vase of flowers. On seeing these flowers—in the first instant you perceive them—you probably did not think “beautiful” or “these flowers suit me” or “these are such and such kinds of flowers.” You simply saw them. This is what we call “right seeing,” the most correct way these six functions to be as they are is the most peaceful condition for human beings.
      There is a method of zazen called “shikantaza,” which means “to sit single-mindedly.” Shikantaza is to sit entrusting yourself to thoughts as they arise. It is to sit in a dignified matter, without being moved by what is seen, heard, or thought; shikantaza is to sit without being bothered in any way by these things. By continuing to entrust yourself in this way to the six sense functions as they are, it is possible to know that you are one with things. This is what we call “casting off body and mind.” In China, Dogen practiced with Zen Master Nyojo, and he cast off body and mind doing this kind of zazen. He went to Nyojo and said, “I have cast off body and mind.” Nyojo said, “No. It must be ‘body and mind cast off.’” The reason why “cast off body and mind” is not correct is that from the beginning, body and mind have already been cast off. Consequently, Nyojo explained that casting off body and mind is wholly unnecessary.

      Gassho,

      Ben

      stlah

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      • Onka
        Member
        • May 2019
        • 1576

        #4
        Gassho
        Anna

        ST
        穏 On (Calm)
        火 Ka (Fires)
        They/She.

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        • Tairin
          Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 2916

          #5
          Simple


          Tairin
          Sat today and lah
          泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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          • Kyotai

            #6
            Thank you

            Gassho, Kyotai
            ST LaH

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            • Washin
              Senior Priest-in-Training
              • Dec 2014
              • 3827

              #7


              Gassho
              Washin
              sat today
              Kaidō (皆道) Every Way
              Washin (和信) Harmony Trust
              ----
              I am a novice priest-in-training. Anything that I say must not be considered as teaching
              and should be taken with a 'grain of salt'.

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              • mundi
                Member
                • Aug 2019
                • 24

                #8
                Gassho

                dean

                sattoday

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                • Shoki
                  Member
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 580

                  #9
                  Thank you Jundo. Very nicely summed up. Although I can't "just forget about it." As I prefer to "juss fuggetta boutit!"

                  Gassho
                  STlah
                  James

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                  • Kendrick
                    Member
                    • May 2019
                    • 250

                    #10
                    Thank you, Jundo. /\

                    Gassho
                    Kendrick
                    Sat/Lah

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                    • Kyonin
                      Dharma Transmitted Priest
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 6748

                      #11
                      Thank you, Roshi.

                      Gassho,

                      Kyonin
                      Sat/LAH
                      Hondō Kyōnin
                      奔道 協忍

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                      • Kotei
                        Dharma Transmitted Priest
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 4302

                        #12
                        Thank you.
                        Gassho,
                        Kotei sat/lah today.
                        義道 冴庭 / Gidō Kotei.

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                        • Seishin
                          Member
                          • Aug 2016
                          • 1522

                          #13
                          Thank you.

                          Sat / lah


                          Seishin

                          Sei - Meticulous
                          Shin - Heart

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                          • Shinshi
                            Senior Priest-in-Training
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 3768

                            #14


                            Gassho, Shinshi

                            SaT-LaH
                            空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi

                            For Zen students a weed is a treasure. With this attitude, whatever you do, life becomes an art.
                            ​— Shunryu Suzuki

                            E84I - JAJ

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                            • sosen
                              Member
                              • Oct 2018
                              • 82

                              #15
                              Thank you Jundo

                              _()_
                              sosen
                              stlah

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