Jundo: BEING MODERATE on "BEING IN THE MOMENT"

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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40895

    #31
    Originally posted by Tai Shi
    I received an email this morning about my surgery and it has been scheduled.
    Ah, Tai, I am sure that you cannot be any more "in the moment" than in the moment of facing all these events!

    Nine Bows, Jundo

    STLah
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    • Zenkon
      Member
      • May 2020
      • 228

      #32
      Perhaps, it is a matter of degree. For myself, and for most of the people I encounter, too much time is spent depressingly ruminating about and re-living the past, or anxiously forecasting the future. "Multi-tasking" becomes the norm, regardless of the significance of the tasks themselves. We rush through life with our hair on fire, frantic, unable to stop for fear something will be missed, overlooked or that we will somehow fall behind. When we stop re-living the past, or worrying about the future, we are left with the only thing that is "real", the only thing that we can actually affect - the present. For me, more of that brings peace.

      Gassho

      Dick

      sat/lah

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      • Inshin
        Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 557

        #33
        . Please know the timeless stillness that is the heart of each moment, even the most tumultuous moments in life.
        I have a feeling that it's not about being in the moment but being the space between the moments. A moment is like a movie frame, all moments separated from each other and yet creating illusion of continuity, illusion of our solid selves, our lives, continuity of time. And yet in this constantly changing moment, there is something timeless.

        It's been "bothering" me for a while.

        "All day long the pillar goes back and forth. Why am I unable to move?" Daito Yuikai.

        Gassho
        Sat

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        • Jundo
          Treeleaf Founder and Priest
          • Apr 2006
          • 40895

          #34
          Originally posted by Inshin
          I have a feeling that it's not about being in the moment but being the space between the moments. A moment is like a movie frame, all moments separated from each other and yet creating illusion of continuity, illusion of our solid selves, our lives, continuity of time. And yet in this constantly changing moment, there is something timeless.

          It's been "bothering" me for a while.

          "All day long the pillar goes back and forth. Why am I unable to move?" Daito Yuikai.

          Gassho
          Sat
          There is the screen, the light, the popcorn and the seats, the film and the actors, the comedy and the drama ... why need there be any space at all?

          All light, all the show.

          Gassho, J

          STLah
          ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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          • Inshin
            Member
            • Jul 2020
            • 557

            #35
            Originally posted by Jundo
            There is the screen, the light, the popcorn and the seats, the film and the actors, the comedy and the drama ... why need there be any space at all?

            All light, all the show.

            Gassho, J

            STLah


            That's been "bothering" me too. And brought to mind a quote I came across recently : "Zhiyi had denied “that the mind is a pure, undifferentiated cosmic principle from which all things arise.” Instead, he had privileged “entering emptiness from conventional existence,” which reflects an “emphasis on concrete particulars as instantiating ultimate truth: “Of every form and fragrance, there is none that is not the Middle Way.”. [Original Enlightenment and transformation of Medieval Japanese Buddhism by Jacqueline Stone]

            Gassho
            Sat

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 40895

              #36
              Originally posted by Inshin


              That's been "bothering" me too. And brought to mind a quote I came across recently : "Zhiyi had denied “that the mind is a pure, undifferentiated cosmic principle from which all things arise.” Instead, he had privileged “entering emptiness from conventional existence,” which reflects an “emphasis on concrete particulars as instantiating ultimate truth: “Of every form and fragrance, there is none that is not the Middle Way.”. [Original Enlightenment and transformation of Medieval Japanese Buddhism by Jacqueline Stone]

              Gassho
              Sat
              I believe that this is the Zen stance: There is no show if just the light, only a boring blank screen. Who wants to stare at that!?

              On the other hand, some people fall into the suffering of the movie so deeply, that it is truly Dukkha and misery.

              Best to see the light and the show, sometimes more one than the other (I like to remember that it is just a movie during the really scary parts of horror movies! ), sometimes just enjoying the show, but not sucked in so deeply that one is lost. Light is show, show is light.

              Like that.

              Gassho, J

              STLah
              ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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              • Onkai
                Senior Priest-in-Training
                • Aug 2015
                • 3126

                #37
                Thank you, Jundo, for the wonderful teachings in this thread.

                Gassho,
                Onkai
                Sat/lah
                美道 Bidou Beautiful Way
                恩海 Onkai Merciful/Kind Ocean

                I have a lot to learn; take anything I say that sounds like teaching with a grain of salt.

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                • Seikai
                  Member
                  • Oct 2019
                  • 24

                  #38
                  I am in awe of the teachings that appear on these pages.
                  Thank you Jundo and Sangha
                  Gassho
                  Seikai

                  ST/Lh

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                  • Ryumon
                    Member
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 1818

                    #39
                    "Moderation is enlightenment."

                    - Jundo Cohen (but you'll have to wait until the next episode of The Zen of Everything, this Friday, to hear it).

                    He also said "Goldilocks is the Buddha," and that was pretty entertaining. :-)

                    Gassho,

                    Ryūmon

                    sat

                    In case you don't know about The Zen of Everything, do check out the podcast: www.zen-of-everything.com
                    I know nothing.

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                    • Tai Shi
                      Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 3457

                      #40
                      I’m waiting for The Zen of Everything with great expectations.
                      Gassho
                      sat/ lah


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                      Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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                      • Ryumon
                        Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 1818

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Tai Shi
                        I’m waiting for The Zen of Everything with great expectations.
                        You mean the Charles Dickens episode? :-)

                        Gassho,

                        Ryūmon

                        sat
                        I know nothing.

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                        • Tai Shi
                          Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 3457

                          #42
                          Yes of course. Shall we Surly.
                          sat/ lah


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                          Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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                          • Tomás ESP
                            Member
                            • Aug 2020
                            • 575

                            #43
                            Thank you Jundo

                            I feel like this post goes really well with the one you did about goals/having no goals. Having goals while being goalless at heart. Doing different things while being present at the same time. Ultimately, it is all the body of reality, a unification of dualities/contradictions. Refreshing perspective

                            Gassho,
                            Tomás
                            Sat&LaH

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                            • Kyōsen
                              Member
                              • Aug 2019
                              • 311

                              #44


                              Yes, in principle I think "be in the moment" or, as Ram Dass used to say "be here now" is good advice. In reality, however, we have to be able to learn from our past and plan for the future. Taking the advice to "be in the moment" too literally can cause a lot of problems, and it seems that taking these axioms too literally is generally not a great way to go through life. This is a bit of a spoiler for Star Trek Discovery Season 3 (so don't read past this point if you plan to watch it) but I like that in the 32nd Century, the Vulcans have done away with their old axioms ("the needs of the many...", etc) because they found they were all too often being used as excuses to be intellectually and morally lazy - I feel as though that's a good lesson for us non-fictional human beings here in the 21st Century, too.

                              Gassho
                              Kyōsen
                              Sat|LAH
                              橋川
                              kyō (bridge) | sen (river)

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                              • Kevin M
                                Member
                                • Dec 2018
                                • 190

                                #45
                                Thanks for this Jundo. I used to think that Zen was about hyper-focus (e.g. shooting and arrow, fixing a motorcycle, etc). I've been surprised to learn since coming here that it's more about opening up and letting everything through, rather than narrowing focus to one thing and shutting everything else out.

                                Gassho,
                                Kevin
                                ST LaH

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