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  • Shokai
    Dharma Transmitted Priest
    • Mar 2009
    • 6453

    #16
    THAT'S WHO WE ARE.

    'nough said

    gassho, Shokai
    stlah
    合掌,生開
    gassho, Shokai

    仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

    "Open to life in a benevolent way"

    https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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    • Guest

      #17
      I don’t know what prompted this post, but I can’t help thinking that, while I love the tradition and history, the robes, bells and incense so to speak, a Buddhism that doesn’t consider the world as it is now, and seek to address it, is somehow missing the point.
      If you don’t check your route before going on a journey you are sure to get lost, so I’m Goto be part of a sangha that takes these things seriously.

      Sattday,

      Dan

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      • Kyonin
        Dharma Transmitted Priest
        • Oct 2010
        • 6748

        #18
        Roshi,

        Me? I'm not going anywhere. I understand what you say, and I do share what you think about the future.

        Life is a constant flow. We must keep going and adapt.

        Thank you for all you do. Hundreds of Spanish speaking people wouldn't be sitting Shikantaza without you teaching me.

        Gassho,

        Kyonin
        Sat/LAH
        Hondō Kyōnin
        奔道 協忍

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        • Jundo
          Treeleaf Founder and Priest
          • Apr 2006
          • 40873

          #19
          Originally posted by Kyonin
          Roshi,

          Me? I'm not going anywhere. I understand what you say, and I do share what you think about the future.

          Life is a constant flow. We must keep going and adapt.

          Thank you for all you do. Hundreds of Spanish speaking people wouldn't be sitting Shikantaza without you teaching me.

          Gassho,

          Kyonin
          Sat/LAH
          No, no es usted!

          El futuro es el presente en el futuro!

          Gassho, J

          stlah
          ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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          • Chikyou
            Member
            • May 2022
            • 685

            #20
            Roshi,

            I admit to having misgivings sometime late last year about some things that you had said. And it made me think, and question. And I learned to appreciate the discomfort that disagreement sometimes brings BECAUSE it leads to questioning, to growth, to new understanding and greater clarification of my values.

            I plan to take Jukai here and TreeLeaf this year.

            Also, I'm a Trekkie now. It may be related.

            Gassho,
            SatLah
            Kelly
            Chikyō 知鏡
            (KellyLM)

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            • Shinshi
              Senior Priest-in-Training
              • Jul 2010
              • 3755

              #21
              Originally posted by KellyLM
              Roshi,

              I admit to having misgivings sometime late last year about some things that you had said. And it made me think, and question. And I learned to appreciate the discomfort that disagreement sometimes brings BECAUSE it leads to questioning, to growth, to new understanding and greater clarification of my values.

              I plan to take Jukai here and TreeLeaf this year.

              Also, I'm a Trekkie now. It may be related.

              Gassho,
              SatLah
              Kelly
              Thinking and being challanged are all good things.

              Glad to have you onboard for Jukai.

              Engage! and Make it So! and all that good trekkie stuff.

              Gassho, Shinshi

              SaT-LaH
              空道 心志 Kudo Shinshi

              For Zen students a weed is a treasure. With this attitude, whatever you do, life becomes an art.
              ​— Shunryu Suzuki

              E84I - JAJ

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              • Nengei
                Member
                • Dec 2016
                • 1658

                #22
                Originally posted by KellyLM
                Also, I'm a Trekkie now. It may be related.
                The super-secret secret plan is working! Welcome to the collective!

                Gassho,
                Nengei
                Sat today. LAH.
                遜道念芸 Sondō Nengei (he/him)

                Please excuse any indication that I am trying to teach anything. I am a priest in training and have no qualifications or credentials to teach Zen practice or the Dharma.

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                • Shokai
                  Dharma Transmitted Priest
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 6453

                  #23
                  Life is a constant flow. We must keep going and adapt.
                  Understanding new concepts is a part of maturation. A friend recently told me that during a bout with newly diagnosed spleen and pancreas cancer she feels she learned acceptance and only now a few months later, giving up resistance to acceptance. It takes time to adapt but, you won't adapt if you put it off. Even though you dislike a new idea. You should dive in, bathe in it, wallow in it before you decide you do or do not agree with it. Then and only then can you decide to agree to agree or disagree.

                  and from another thread:
                  I (Bion) for one would not condone or participate in that. I would however go to him directly to raise my concerns and try to get some answers, before I started bashing him secretly with the other monks. Being humble does not mean one forgets the dharma, the Precepts or the teachings.
                  The definition of a problem is when "what is" differs from "what should be"; and only after you have considered well who or what determined the"should be."

                  gassho, Shokai
                  stlah
                  Last edited by Shokai; 07-14-2023, 12:51 AM.
                  合掌,生開
                  gassho, Shokai

                  仁道 生開 / Jindo Shokai

                  "Open to life in a benevolent way"

                  https://sarushinzendo.wordpress.com/

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                  • Nathan Noble
                    Member
                    • Jul 2023
                    • 12

                    #24
                    While Tradition is important, When we place things on a pedestal, they stop moving, and in nature things that stop moving stagnate and weaken. If we don't at least glance towards tomorrow, The past is rendered moot. Because there's no opportunity to carry those traditions forward, and watch their seeds grow and be cultivated by our future.
                    Whether that future is my Son, Or his Great-grandchildren whom I'll never meet.
                    And whether they Chant it in English, Pali, or even Binary.
                    1101011001.!!!
                    I personally believe that growth is an inevitable law of the universe. And to resist that is to resist our own natures.

                    ...
                    Just my two cents of ramblings.
                    Gassho.
                    -Nathan

                    Sat today.

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                    • Jundo
                      Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 40873

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Nathan Noble
                      And whether they Chant it in English, Pali, or even Binary.
                      1101011001.!!!
                      I personally believe that growth is an inevitable law of the universe. And to resist that is to resist our own natures.
                      A person after my own heart.

                      Gassho, J

                      stlah
                      ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                      • Jacob Janicek
                        Member
                        • Jun 2020
                        • 40

                        #26
                        I have to say I'm confused as to why this topic proved to be contentious.

                        -Jacob J.
                        Sat today
                        I'm not qualified to sign this post

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