July 28th-29th Treeleaf Weekly Zazenkai - No Clock Can Be Checked

[Houzan]

Sat with you all just now. Thank you, TL[emoji120]
Gassho, Michael
Satlah

[Chikyou]

Wonderful talk. Thank you Jundo Roshi.

Gassho,
SatLah
Kelly

[Kiri]

Yes, this is true. So, sitting times varied, were only approximate. Likewise for the rest of the day, which depended on watching the sun shadows, how long candles burned and such, so varying by day and season, only approximate.

Dogen did not have an electric clock.

Gassho, J

stlah

[Tairin]

Thank you everyone. I sat with you this morning.


Tairin
Sat today and lah

[Jundo]

Thank you everyone!
Jundo's talk made me wonder how time was measured during zazen, before clocks were invented. I read something about the use of incense sticks as timers but I am not sure if this is true or not ..?
Gassho, Kiri
Sat/Lah

Yes, this is true. So, sitting times varied, were only approximate. Likewise for the rest of the day, which depended on watching the sun shadows, how long candles burned and such, so varying by day and season, only approximate.

Dogen did not have an electric clock.

Gassho, J

stlah

[Kiri]

Thank you everyone!
Jundo's talk made me wonder how time was measured during zazen, before clocks were invented. I read something about the use of incense sticks as timers but I am not sure if this is true or not ..?
Gassho, Kiri
Sat/Lah

[Kotei]

Thank you everyone!

Gassho,
Kotei sat/lah today.

[Jundo]

Today's sittings reflects for a time on this little essay on time ...

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No Clock Can Be Checked ...
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Dear All,

Please sit our Treeleaf Zazenkai for 90 minutes with Zazen, Heart Sutra and more:

10am Japan Saturday morning, NY 9pm, LA 6pm Friday night, London 2am and Paris 3am Saturday morning, or any time thereafter here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkxX4CPYg38

However, "one way" live sitters are encouraged to come into the Zoom sitting, and just leave the camera and microphone turned off: Join live (with or without a camera & microphone) on Zoom at: TREELEAF Now OR at DIRECT ZOOM LINK, password (if needed): dogen

00:00 – 00:15 CEREMONY (HEART SUTRA in English) and Dedication
00:15 – 00:45 ZAZEN
00:45 – 00:55 KINHIN
00:55 – 01:25 ZAZEN
01:25 – 01:30 VERSE OF ATONEMENT & FOUR VOWS
01:30 - 01:45(?) Informal Tea Time (All Welcome)

ATTENTION: Everyone, when rising for Kinhin or Ceremonies after Zazen, get up slowly, don't rush, hold something stable, you won't be "late," so TAKE YOUR TIME! Make sure you are careful getting up!

Gassho, Jundo

SatTodayLah



PS - There is no "wrong" or "right" in Zazen ... yet here is a little explanation of the "right" times to Bow (A Koan) ...

https://youtu.be/GR6POpsXh9Q

Chant Book is here for those who wish to join in: CHANT BOOK LINK

The other video I mention on Zendo decorum is this one, from our "Always Beginners" video Series:

Sit-a-Long with Jundo: Zazen for Beginners (12) - Basic Zendo Decorum At Home
https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/show...093#post189093

I also recommend a little Talk on why small rituals and procedures are so cherished in the Zendo:

SIT-A-LONG with Jundo: Small Things in the Zendo
https://www.treeleaf.org/forums/show...s-in-the-Zendo