September 24-25th Treeleaf Weekly Zazenkai - "Not Open, Not Closed" Zazenkai

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  • Rousei
    Member
    • Oct 2020
    • 118

    #16
    Thank you everyone, todays talk was especially interesting!

    Sorry I had to dash from first Zazen sit a minute early, area leader came over to talk to me about the Lion Dance I'm about to go participate in! But I came back quickly straight into Kinhin. The Tea House afterwards was also really enjoyable. It's always a pleasure to hear other people talk about their practice or life experiences.

    Gassho
    Mark
    ST
    浪省 - RouSei - Wandering Introspection

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    • Kiri
      Member
      • Apr 2019
      • 352

      #17
      Thank you Jundo, Jakuden and everyone else! It was nice practicing with you!

      Many of you will probably know the famous quote from Carl Sagan: "The cosmos is within us. We are made of star-stuff. We are a way for the universe to know itself."

      Gassho, Nikolas
      Sat/Lah

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      希 rare
      理 principle
      (Nikolas)

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      • Anchi
        Member
        • Sep 2015
        • 556

        #18
        Life itself is the only teacher.
        一 Joko Beck


        STLah
        安知 Anchi

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        • Sekiyuu
          Member
          • Apr 2018
          • 201

          #19
          Thanks for sitting, everyone!

          When you sit, the universe is sitting on itself!


          Sekiyuu
          Sat Today

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          • Kaishin
            Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 2322

            #20
            Thank you, all
            Thanks,
            Kaishin (開心, Open Heart)
            Please take this layman's words with a grain of salt.

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            • Seiko
              Novice Priest-in-Training
              • Jul 2020
              • 1081

              #21
              Thank you everyone.

              Gassho, Seiko, stlah
              Gandō Seiko
              頑道清光
              (Stubborn Way of Pure Light)

              My street name is 'Al'.

              Any words I write here are merely the thoughts of an apprentice priest, just my opinions, that's all.

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              • Tairin
                Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 2864

                #22
                Thank you everyone. I sat with you this morning.


                Tairin
                Sat today and lah
                泰林 - Tai Rin - Peaceful Woods

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                • Jakuden
                  Member
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 6141

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Nikos
                  Thank you Jundo, Jakuden and everyone else! It was nice practicing with you!

                  Many of you will probably know the famous quote from Carl Sagan: "The cosmos is within us. We are made of star-stuff. We are a way for the universe to know itself."

                  Gassho, Nikolas
                  Sat/Lah

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                  Oooooh, I forgot about that! I was a pretty big Carl Sagan fan, and somewhere in the back of my brain I knew that whenever Jundo talked about us being the universe looking at itself it reminded me of something, and now I know what it was.

                  Gassho
                  Jakuden
                  SatToday/Lent a little hand

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                  • Kotei
                    Dharma Transmitted Priest
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 4243

                    #24
                    Thank you everyone!

                    Gassho,
                    Kotei sat/lah today.
                    義道 冴庭 / Gidō Kotei.

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                    • Tai Shi
                      Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 3445

                      #25
                      Thank you others for allowing me practice in one way 1/2 time.
                      Gassho
                      sat/ lah


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                      • Sekishi
                        Dharma Transmitted Priest
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 5673

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Nikos
                        Many of you will probably know the famous quote from Carl Sagan: "The cosmos is within us. We are made of star-stuff. We are a way for the universe to know itself."
                        Apologies in advance - I have a thing for this quote...

                        A month or two ago my son had an upset stomach and took some Pepto-bismol. He said something to me like, "You know, bismuth cannot form in most stars, only red-giants that eventually go super-nova. Through massive explosions our upset stomachs are calmed."

                        But, one of my favorite deliveries of this line comes from the character Delenn on Babylon 5.

                        > The molecules of your body are the same molecules . . . that burn inside the stars themselves. We are star stuff. We are the Universe, made manifest, trying to figure itself out.
                        >> ~ Delenn, Babylon 5, _A Distant Star_


                        Capt. John Sheridan: "I wish I had your faith in the universe. I just don't see it sometimes. "Delenn: "Then I will tell you a great secret, Captain. Perhaps...



                        A while back I really got into exploring this expression of "being starstuff". In particular the word "stuff" really strikes me - so non-specific and simple. Another word for "dharmas", or for the "red dust" of some of the old Zen stories.

                        But, I found that there is an older usage of the term in this context. This one by science author H. Gordon Garbedian in 1929:

                        > We are made of the same stuff as the stars, so when we study astronomy we are in a way only investigating our remote ancestry and our place in the universe of star stuff. Our very bodies consist of the same chemical elements found in the most distant nebulae, and our activities are guided by the same universal rules.
                        >> ~H. Gordon Garbedian, 1929 August 11, New York Times, Section: New York Times Magazine, _The Star Stuff That Is Man_ by H. Gordon Garbedian, Quote Page SM1.


                        But, it is possible that he in turn borrowed it from Albert Durrant Watson who used it in a way even more aligned with "dharmas" or "skanhas" in 1918:

                        > Thus we come to see that if our bodies are made of star-stuff, and there is nothing else, says the spectroscope, to make them of—the loftier qualities of our being are just as necessarily constituents of that universal substance out of which are made, "Whatever gods there be."
                        > We are made of universal and divine ingredients, and the study of the stars will not let us escape a wholesome and final knowledge of the fact.
                        >> ~Albert Durrant Watson, The Journal of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada, Volume 12, Number 3, _Astronomy: A Cultural Avocation by Albert Durrant Watson (Retiring President’s Address_, Annual Meeting, January 29, 1918



                        Perhaps there are older formulations. I do not know. But how lovely it can be when science, astronomy, philosophy, and religion find the common ground of truth. Right here in the world of the red dust - starstuff.

                        Deep bows,
                        Sekishi
                        Sekishi | 石志 | He/him | Better with a grain of salt, but best ignored entirely.

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                        • Sekishi
                          Dharma Transmitted Priest
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 5673

                          #27
                          Apologies for yet another post, but during the talk all I could hear in my head was a sample (original from Cowboy Bebop) used in an old lofi hiphop track "The Eye of Truth" from the Driver album _Bumps_:

                          Provided to YouTube by DistroKidThe Eye of Truth · DriverBumps℗ 608254 Records DKReleased on: 2017-09-07Auto-generated by YouTube.



                          > Know this Swimming Bird: This blue eye perceives all things conjoined. The past, the future, and the present. Everything flows and all is connected. This eye is not merely seeing reality. It is touching the truth. Open the eye of truth... There is nothing to fear.
                          >> Laughing Bull, _Cowboy Bebop_


                          Ok, enough with the quotes. Enjoy your day, conjoined with all things, different but not separate, at one - not two, starstuff walking and talking - head nodding.

                          Deep bows,
                          Sekishi
                          #sat
                          Sekishi | 石志 | He/him | Better with a grain of salt, but best ignored entirely.

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                          • Jakuden
                            Member
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 6141

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Sekishi
                            Apologies in advance - I have a thing for this quote...

                            A month or two ago my son had an upset stomach and took some Pepto-bismol. He said something to me like, "You know, bismuth cannot form in most stars, only red-giants that eventually go super-nova. Through massive explosions our upset stomachs are calmed."

                            But, one of my favorite deliveries of this line comes from the character Delenn on Babylon 5.

                            > The molecules of your body are the same molecules . . . that burn inside the stars themselves. We are star stuff. We are the Universe, made manifest, trying to figure itself out.
                            >> ~ Delenn, Babylon 5, _A Distant Star_


                            Capt. John Sheridan: "I wish I had your faith in the universe. I just don't see it sometimes. "Delenn: "Then I will tell you a great secret, Captain. Perhaps...



                            A while back I really got into exploring this expression of "being starstuff". In particular the word "stuff" really strikes me - so non-specific and simple. Another word for "dharmas", or for the "red dust" of some of the old Zen stories.

                            But, I found that there is an older usage of the term in this context. This one by science author H. Gordon Garbedian in 1929:

                            > We are made of the same stuff as the stars, so when we study astronomy we are in a way only investigating our remote ancestry and our place in the universe of star stuff. Our very bodies consist of the same chemical elements found in the most distant nebulae, and our activities are guided by the same universal rules.
                            >> ~H. Gordon Garbedian, 1929 August 11, New York Times, Section: New York Times Magazine, _The Star Stuff That Is Man_ by H. Gordon Garbedian, Quote Page SM1.


                            But, it is possible that he in turn borrowed it from Albert Durrant Watson who used it in a way even more aligned with "dharmas" or "skanhas" in 1918:

                            > Thus we come to see that if our bodies are made of star-stuff, and there is nothing else, says the spectroscope, to make them of—the loftier qualities of our being are just as necessarily constituents of that universal substance out of which are made, "Whatever gods there be."
                            > We are made of universal and divine ingredients, and the study of the stars will not let us escape a wholesome and final knowledge of the fact.
                            >> ~Albert Durrant Watson, The Journal of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada, Volume 12, Number 3, _Astronomy: A Cultural Avocation by Albert Durrant Watson (Retiring President’s Address_, Annual Meeting, January 29, 1918



                            Perhaps there are older formulations. I do not know. But how lovely it can be when science, astronomy, philosophy, and religion find the common ground of truth. Right here in the world of the red dust - starstuff.

                            Deep bows,
                            Sekishi

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                            • Risho
                              Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 3178

                              #29
                              Thank you all!

                              Gassho

                              Risho
                              -stlah
                              Email: risho.treeleaf@gmail.com

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                              • Tai Shi
                                Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 3445

                                #30
                                One [emoji3516] last entry. When that star ⭐️ goes super nova, I want to live on a planet where I can see it, not close enough to get burned up in my next life, In my next world [emoji289].
                                Gassho
                                sat/ lah


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