May 5th-6th, 2017 - OUR MONTHLY 4-hour ZAZENKAI!

**M.C. Easton** · 05-06-2017, 03:10 PM

Thank you so much, Kyonin, for the beautiful point about food connecting us to all lives that have ever been. I am realizing that while chronic illness is suffering, the deepest suffering comes from trying to know what can't be known (last week) and the delusion of separateness. Food and gratitude are beautiful antidotes. Thank you, dear sangha.
Gassho,
M.C.
SatToday

**Jika** · 05-06-2017, 03:54 PM

Thank you all.

I keep struggling with those parts of Zen I (incorrectly?) interpret as "being grateful to live while making sure not to enjoy oneself".

If I had a hall full of monks to feed, living on alms, I'd let them eat just enough too. No, you don't need extra pickles.

I think the talk helped me a bit with the interpretation (if I got it) that one can enjoy pickles with the rice gruel, but should not be attached to them.

Gassho
Jika
#sattoday

**Kyonin** · 05-06-2017, 08:56 PM

Thank you all for sitting.

Thank you Jundo for the talk. Lovely.

Gassho,

Kyonin
SatToday

**Jundo** · 05-07-2017, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by Jika

Thank you all.

I keep struggling with those parts of Zen I (incorrectly?) interpret as "being grateful to live while making sure not to enjoy oneself".

If I had a hall full of monks to feed, living on alms, I'd let them eat just enough too. No, you don't need extra pickles.

... one can enjoy pickles with the rice gruel, but should not be attached to them.

Yes, nobody said not to enjoy when enjoyment comes. Enjoy! But simply, be willing to cry when crying comes. Cry! Take the sweet and the bitter into one's bowl in equanimity. Avoid the poisons of excess desire, anger and division.

You know the story of the guy who is hanging from a branch, tigers above and deep fall to more tigers below? He spots a strawberry within arms reach. Plucks it .... luscious! He could taste the whole world in its sweet and tartness.

Gassho, J

SatToday

**Sekishi** · 05-08-2017, 02:00 AM

Hi everyone,

Jundo's talk is up as a podcast episode now:

May 2017 Zazenkai Talk (May 5th-6th, 2017 - OUR MONTHLY 4-hour ZAZENKAI!) | TREELEAF ZENDO PODCAST

https://treeleaf.podbean.com/e/may-2017-zazenkai-talk-may-5th-6th-2017-our-monthly-4-hour-zazenkai/

Our Talk this month digests the Chants for Formal Meals ... not bread alone, these Chants guide us for all our Practice and Life ... The talk covers the Formal Meal Verses (Gyôhatsu nenju 行鉢念誦): Verse upon Hearing the Meal Signal (Montsui no ge 聞槌之偈) Verse for Setting Out Bowls (Tenpatsu no ge 展鉢之偈）) Verse of Buddha Names (Butsumyô 十仏名) Food Offering Verses (Sejiki ge 施食偈) Verse of Five Contemplations (Gokan no ge 五観之偈) Verse of Food Offering (Saba ge 生飯偈) Bowl Raising Verse (Keihatsu no ge 擎鉢之偈) Meal End (Sessui no ge 折水之偈) Verse of Purity While Abiding in the World (shose kaibon no ge 処世界梵之偈) Further reading and discussion for this talk are available on the Treeleaf forum:May 5th-6th, 2017 - OUR MONTHLY 4-hour ZAZENKAI! »

Gassho,
Sekishi #sat

Mp · 05-08-2017, 02:04 AM

Originally posted by Sekishi

Hi everyone,

Jundo's talk is up as a podcast episode now:

May 2017 Zazenkai Talk (May 5th-6th, 2017 - OUR MONTHLY 4-hour ZAZENKAI!) | TREELEAF ZENDO PODCAST

https://treeleaf.podbean.com/e/may-2017-zazenkai-talk-may-5th-6th-2017-our-monthly-4-hour-zazenkai/

Our Talk this month digests the Chants for Formal Meals ... not bread alone, these Chants guide us for all our Practice and Life ... The talk covers the Formal Meal Verses (Gyôhatsu nenju 行鉢念誦): Verse upon Hearing the Meal Signal (Montsui no ge 聞槌之偈) Verse for Setting Out Bowls (Tenpatsu no ge 展鉢之偈）) Verse of Buddha Names (Butsumyô 十仏名) Food Offering Verses (Sejiki ge 施食偈) Verse of Five Contemplations (Gokan no ge 五観之偈) Verse of Food Offering (Saba ge 生飯偈) Bowl Raising Verse (Keihatsu no ge 擎鉢之偈) Meal End (Sessui no ge 折水之偈) Verse of Purity While Abiding in the World (shose kaibon no ge 処世界梵之偈) Further reading and discussion for this talk are available on the Treeleaf forum:May 5th-6th, 2017 - OUR MONTHLY 4-hour ZAZENKAI! »

Gassho,
Sekishi #sat

Thank you Sekishi.

Gassho
Shingen

s@today

**Seishin** · 05-08-2017, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by Sekishi

Hi everyone,

Jundo's talk is up as a podcast episode now:

May 2017 Zazenkai Talk (May 5th-6th, 2017 - OUR MONTHLY 4-hour ZAZENKAI!) | TREELEAF ZENDO PODCAST

https://treeleaf.podbean.com/e/may-2017-zazenkai-talk-may-5th-6th-2017-our-monthly-4-hour-zazenkai/

Our Talk this month digests the Chants for Formal Meals ... not bread alone, these Chants guide us for all our Practice and Life ... The talk covers the Formal Meal Verses (Gyôhatsu nenju 行鉢念誦): Verse upon Hearing the Meal Signal (Montsui no ge 聞槌之偈) Verse for Setting Out Bowls (Tenpatsu no ge 展鉢之偈）) Verse of Buddha Names (Butsumyô 十仏名) Food Offering Verses (Sejiki ge 施食偈) Verse of Five Contemplations (Gokan no ge 五観之偈) Verse of Food Offering (Saba ge 生飯偈) Bowl Raising Verse (Keihatsu no ge 擎鉢之偈) Meal End (Sessui no ge 折水之偈) Verse of Purity While Abiding in the World (shose kaibon no ge 処世界梵之偈) Further reading and discussion for this talk are available on the Treeleaf forum:May 5th-6th, 2017 - OUR MONTHLY 4-hour ZAZENKAI! »

Gassho,
Sekishi #sat

Sekishi

Not sure if its me but I think the podcast link is for an older Zazenkai. Just spent a wonderful 45 minutes dog walk listening to the teachings of Mohiyan (dodgy spelling no doubt). In fact I learnt a lot from this talk which might explain what I may be doing wrong when sitting.

So my error or bad link this was a enlightening talk I'd recommend to newbies like me. Every cloud .......

**Matt** · 05-08-2017, 04:54 PM

Sitting this one tonight.
Gassho
Matt

**Sekishi** · 05-08-2017, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Seishin-Do

Not sure if its me but I think the podcast link is for an older Zazenkai. Just spent a wonderful 45 minutes dog walk listening to the teachings of Mohiyan (dodgy spelling no doubt). In fact I learnt a lot from this talk which might explain what I may be doing wrong when sitting.

So my error or bad link this was a enlightening talk I'd recommend to newbies like me. Every cloud .......

Ack, I'm sorry Seishin! At least it was a good talk (what you listened to was the May 2016 Zazenkai).

It is fixed now.

Derpy bows,
Sekishi #sat

**RichardH** · 05-08-2017, 10:40 PM

Gassho and Thank you

Daizan
Sat today..... and thank you for the reminder to join in Shugen's Oryoki sessions!

**Shokai** · 05-08-2017, 11:30 PM

Just finished sitting this zazenkai
Thank you all who sat and/or will sit.

gassho,
sattoday

p.s. Stardust was a 30s song

**Jundo** · 05-08-2017, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by Shokai

Just finished sitting this zazenkai
Thank you all who sat and/or will sit.

gassho,
sattoday

p.s. Stardust was a 30s song

Stardust - Nat King Cole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjU6ZjrQulc

A beautiful song magnificently sung by Nat King Cole. One of my all-time favorites! The song and album cover are not mine. No copyright infrigement is intended.

Willie Nelson - Stardust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf5UvKjCDUU

Stardust 1978

**Washin** · 05-09-2017, 05:01 AM

Thank you Jundo and all

Gassho
Washin
sat

**Seishin** · 05-09-2017, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by Sekishi

Ack, I'm sorry Seishin! At least it was a good talk (what you listened to was the May 2016 Zazenkai).

It is fixed now.

Derpy bows,
Sekishi #sat

Thanks for that.

Yes a really good lesson, so maybe some karmic influence as I've been struggling to let go of thoughts recently or chastising their presence. So I'm about to see if it helped!

**Kotei** · 05-09-2017, 07:07 AM

Thank you.

Gassho,
Kotei just sat.

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