Freeze framed zazen

[Jakuden]

We see the placebo effect in animals too... because someone has to report the data, which is usually a human.

But there have been some controlled studies in animals that have demonstrated the effectiveness of acupuncture for certain disease conditions. I will refer patients for it sometimes as part of a multimodal approach to pain management.

Not sure hypnosis would ever be a thing, but my critters are pretty susceptible to suggestion when I have a treat in my hand.

Gassho,
Jakuden
SatToday

[Jishin]

We see the placebo effect in animals too... because someone has to report the data, which is usually a human.

But there have been some controlled studies in animals that have demonstrated the effectiveness of acupuncture for certain disease conditions. I will refer patients for it sometimes as part of a multimodal approach to pain management.

Not sure hypnosis would ever be a thing, but my critters are pretty susceptible to suggestion when I have a treat in my hand.

Gassho,
Jakuden
SatToday

I give my German Shepherd accupunture like this:

Sit!
Down!
Belly scratch!

She flips over on her back and I stick/stroke needles in her belly (fingers) and she indicates therapeutic benefit by sticking her big tongue out and making some "don't stop don't stop" German Shepherd noises.

Also, when Jundo has a headache, I stomp on his foot as hard as I can. He says ouch ouch ouch, calls me some expletives and becomes completely oblivious to his headache. Very similar to some physiological responses to acupuncture and also western medicine.

I am no expert in acupuncture but it is intuitive that there is something to it. You don't even have to be a scientist to understand exactly how it works.



Gassho, Jishin, ST

[Hoko]

We see the placebo effect in animals too... because someone has to report the data, which is usually a human.

But there have been some controlled studies in animals that have demonstrated the effectiveness of acupuncture for certain disease conditions. I will refer patients for it sometimes as part of a multimodal approach to pain management.

Not sure hypnosis would ever be a thing, but my critters are pretty susceptible to suggestion when I have a treat in my hand.

Gassho,
Jakuden
SatToday

All treats are inherently empty.
All the Buddhas of the past present and future do not know it.
Cats and cows know it.
When my kids go to the doctor they get a shot and a lollipop.
Vaccinations, though painful, are necessary to get into public school.
Lollipops, though delicious, get eaten.
From birth to death it's just shots and lollipops!
Wouldn't it be great if we could get lollipops without the shots?
All these years of zazen and still there's shots? Where's my lollipop?
What a rip off!
I want to be reincarnated as a dog...

Gassho,
Hōkō
#SatToday

PS: sorry. I just sat and I'm feeling zenny. Ignore me, I'm just being playful. Still, who doesn't like treats? 😁
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

PPS: Attention! Nansen said to the assembly "what would you do for a Klondike bar?" 😁

[Koushu]

It is not uncommon to have such an experience of multiple days of peace. After Sesshin or a particularly resounding sit is very common.

Some folks (not you) go on to feel then that such feeling is where it is at, and the point of Practice is to attain and maintain such feelings longer and longer. Some my feel that such a state is realization, and before and after (often some crash follows) is not. One can become very attached to such states.

To do so is an error.

Such state is such state and, to the wise, the before and after is not before or after. Hard to explain. I tried to do so a bit here ...

http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showthread.php?15111-WHAT-s-OFTEN-MISSING-in-SHIKANTAZA-EXPLANATIONS

Gassho, J

SatToday

"Such state is such state and, to the wise, the before and after is not before or after. Hard to explain. I tried to do so a bit here ... "

In other words when the bell rings it isn't the silent bell nor is it the sound of non-sound of the silent bell ringing, nor the silence of non-silence of the silent bell ringing. It is not even the plum blossom opening during the depth of snowfall, nor the droplet of water that settles upon the ice. None of these are the moments of breaking of the cluttered mind even upon awaking... for few, very few can remain unattached. Only within the mind of true self can one remain unattached, then all of these precious moments become only sign posts?

Something like that? The silent bell ringing, the slowing of time, the bio-electric feedback, the sensation of bliss are only signposts, mile markers at best for the journey is barely beginning.

Gassho
拡手
Koushu

Satoday

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[Jundo]

In other words when the bell rings it isn't the silent bell nor is it the sound of non-sound of the silent bell ringing, nor the silence of non-silence of the silent bell ringing. It is not even the plum blossom opening during the depth of snowfall, nor the droplet of water that settles upon the ice. None of these are the moments of breaking of the cluttered mind even upon awaking... for few, very few can remain unattached. Only within the mind of true self can one remain unattached, then all of these precious moments become only sign posts?

Something like that? The silent bell ringing, the slowing of time, the bio-electric feedback, the sensation of bliss are only signposts, mile markers at best for the journey is barely beginning.

I don't know. To be honest, I have to get the car to the mechanics by 3:30, and pick up my daughter from school now.

Gassho, J

SatToday

[Jakuden]

Ooh, this reminds me of the recent talk I heard about the Gateless Gate Koan, something like, " the world is wide and vast, why do you put on your robe when the bell rings?"
Gassho
Jakuden
SatToday


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[Koushu]

Ooh, this reminds me of the recent talk I heard about the Gateless Gate Koan, something like, " the world is wide and vast, why do you put on your robe when the bell rings?"
Gassho
Jakuden
SatToday


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Excellent. For when you understand your true mind are you not already wearing the robe when the silent bell rings?

For the true mind is vast in emptiness thus it can see through all delusions and contains all understanding throughout the three ages.

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[Jishin]

Excellent. For when you understand your true mind are you not already wearing the robe when the silent bell rings?

For the true mind is vast in emptiness thus it can see through all delusions and contains all understanding throughout the three ages.

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Baloney. There is nothing to understand. Whats for dinner?

Gassho, Jishin, ST