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  • Aurkihnowe
    Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 70

    #16
    If you can cough up the cash, there is a brand new translation of the shobogenzo called the Treasury of the true Dharma eye..I'll tackle it later, but for now I'll stick with my audiobook copy of The Essential Dogen, and my Zen hermit mates

    Grasshopper

    Richard

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    • Aurkihnowe
      Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 70

      #17
      And yes kukuu and jishin Dogen can turn you inside out at times...That's is beauty...

      Gassho
      Richard

      S@2day

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      • Jakuden
        Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 6139

        #18
        Zen/dharma books

        [QUOTE=The first audiobook I suggested above has selected readings that speak to me. I have listened to that audio book one hundred times while driving and it's never the same.

        Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_[/QUOTE]

        The Dogen one?

        Gassho
        Jakuden
        SatToday

        Sorry I can't tell if it has repeated my quote, I was asking about Jishin's audiobook.


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        Last edited by Jakuden; 01-12-2017, 02:26 PM.

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        • Aurkihnowe
          Member
          • Mar 2016
          • 70

          #19
          Not a Dharma book, but former u.s. poet laureate recently published a handful of haiku in rattle magazine,CA poetry mag I follow on Facebook

          Slicing strawberries
          This morning, I'm suddenly
          Slicing strawberries!
          ---Billy Collins

          Gassho
          Richard

          s@2day

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          • Kokuu
            Dharma Transmitted Priest
            • Nov 2012
            • 7145

            #20
            Haiku definitely float my boat:

            Weaving a blanket
            from the pale sky
            the sound of rain.


            If you can cough up the cash, there is a brand new translation of the shobogenzo called the Treasury of the true Dharma eye
            I have that one and it is beautiful. £80 well spent! The Nishijima/Cross translation is reputed to be more accurate (and Gudo Nishijima is of course part of the Treeleaf lineage) but Tanahashi has produced a very poetic version.

            Gassho
            Kokuu
            -sattoday-

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            • themonk614
              Member
              • Dec 2016
              • 36

              #21
              Originally posted by Kokuu

              The more I read it, the more I absolutely love Shobogenzo. It is a thing of beauty.
              Indeed, a thing of beauty. Just starting to read the Shobogenzo -- the Kazuaki Tanahashi translation entitled Treasury of the True Dharma Eye: Zen Master Dogen's Shobo Genzo. It's a beautiful and poetic translation. But it will take me some time to digest the 1280-page book. And I find that I have to read it slowly and carefully in small bites to really appreciate and understand it.

              This is one of the few Soto Zen books that I've read so far (my orientation is more of Rinzai, having trained most of my life with the Sanbo Kyodan). But I'm really enjoying reading it. Some of the things that Dogen is saying resonates with me, though that doesn't mean that it's a breeze to read it. Frankly, sometimes I find it quite perplexing.

              But this classic is worth the effort because of the treasures it contains...

              Gassho,
              Matt

              SatToday
              "You may wander all over the earth but you have to come back to yourself." --Jiddu Krishnamurti

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              • Jundo
                Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                • Apr 2006
                • 41653

                #22
                Originally posted by themonk614
                Indeed, a thing of beauty. Just starting to read the Shobogenzo -- the Kazuaki Tanahashi translation entitled Treasury of the True Dharma Eye: Zen Master Dogen's Shobo Genzo. It's a beautiful and poetic translation. But it will take me some time to digest the 1280-page book. And I find that I have to read it slowly and carefully in small bites to really appreciate and understand it.

                This is one of the few Soto Zen books that I've read so far (my orientation is more of Rinzai, having trained most of my life with the Sanbo Kyodan). But I'm really enjoying reading it. Some of the things that Dogen is saying resonates with me, though that doesn't mean that it's a breeze to read it. Frankly, sometimes I find it quite perplexing.

                But this classic is worth the effort because of the treasures it contains...

                Gassho,
                Matt

                SatToday
                Hi Matt,

                If this is any help, I have a couple of threads on a suggested way to approach Dogen ...

                SIT-A-LONG with JUNDO: Dogen - A Love Supreme
                Really gettin' DOGEN'S WILD SOUND is a lot like gettin' THIS WILD SOUND ... (Please give a listen, and keep it playing while you read the rest of this post) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEAYIJfTJ3U I've described Dogen as a JHANA JAZZ MAN-POET, riffing and free expressing-reexpressing-bending-straightening-unbinding


                How to Read Dogen
                LONG POST A few excerpts for some tips and hints I've posted from time to time for those who want to dip into a bit of Shobogenzo ... ---- In my own "in a nutshell" description of how to approach Shobogenzo ... I often describe Dogen as a Jazzman, bending and re-livening the "standard tunes" of Zen


                Gassho, J

                SatToday
                ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                • Kokuu
                  Dharma Transmitted Priest
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 7145

                  #23
                  Just starting to read the Shobogenzo -- the Kazuaki Tanahashi translation entitled Treasury of the True Dharma Eye: Zen Master Dogen's Shobo Genzo. It's a beautiful and poetic translation. But it will take me some time to digest the 1280-page book. And I find that I have to read it slowly and carefully in small bites to really appreciate and understand it.
                  Hi Matt!

                  I bought it shortly after I joined Treeleaf four years ago and only finished the first reading of all fascicles this Ango. It is definitely one to be read slowly and digested and I am sure you will find, like me, that certain fascicles repay reading again and again because they so much encompass Dogen's thought and Zen practice. There is still lots of it I only partially get or don't get at all.

                  Jundo's notes (above) really helped me as did a number of commentaries that appear in the recommended reading list. Brother Brad's 'Don't Be a Jerk' is both accessible and insightful.

                  Gassho
                  Kokuu
                  -sattoday-

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                  • themonk614
                    Member
                    • Dec 2016
                    • 36

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jundo
                    Hi Matt,

                    If this is any help, I have a couple of threads on a suggested way to approach Dogen ...

                    SIT-A-LONG with JUNDO: Dogen - A Love Supreme
                    Really gettin' DOGEN'S WILD SOUND is a lot like gettin' THIS WILD SOUND ... (Please give a listen, and keep it playing while you read the rest of this post) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEAYIJfTJ3U I've described Dogen as a JHANA JAZZ MAN-POET, riffing and free expressing-reexpressing-bending-straightening-unbinding


                    How to Read Dogen
                    LONG POST A few excerpts for some tips and hints I've posted from time to time for those who want to dip into a bit of Shobogenzo ... ---- In my own "in a nutshell" description of how to approach Shobogenzo ... I often describe Dogen as a Jazzman, bending and re-livening the "standard tunes" of Zen


                    Gassho, J

                    SatToday
                    Hi, Jundo,

                    Thank you for referring me to these threads. Any help to make Dogen accessible and make his teachings understandable is very much appreciated. I will surely take the time the read these threads, especially your notes.

                    Originally posted by Kokuu
                    Hi Matt!

                    I bought it shortly after I joined Treeleaf four years ago and only finished the first reading of all fascicles this Ango. It is definitely one to be read slowly and digested and I am sure you will find, like me, that certain fascicles repay reading again and again because they so much encompass Dogen's thought and Zen practice. There is still lots of it I only partially get or don't get at all.

                    Jundo's notes (above) really helped me as did a number of commentaries that appear in the recommended reading list. Brother Brad's 'Don't Be a Jerk' is both accessible and insightful.

                    Gassho
                    Kokuu
                    -sattoday-
                    Hi, Kokuu,

                    Thanks for recommending Brad Warner's Don't Be A Jerk. I will surely check it out. I will also definitely read Jundo's notes.

                    As you probably know, Dogen's profundity and and complex use of language makes the Shobogenzo quite a challenging read. But from the little that I now understand, as early as now, I can say it's worth the effort. This book is indeed a treasure.

                    Even after I finish reading the book, I will surely be rereading it many times over. It will be a lifetime companion to me in my Zen journey...

                    Gassho,
                    Matt

                    SatToday
                    Last edited by themonk614; 01-22-2017, 03:17 AM.
                    "You may wander all over the earth but you have to come back to yourself." --Jiddu Krishnamurti

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                    • Jwroberts27
                      Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 19

                      #25
                      Hi Richard,

                      I'd agree here, the books by Uchiyama and Okumura, have been very helpful and inspirational. They are both in the Kodo Sawaki line, which has a strong influence on our sangha. Jundo has already mentioned the greatest hits. I would also like to mention THE ZEN TEACHING OF HOMELESS KODO. This sort of like a series of vignettes on Sawaki's approach, with commentary by Uchiyama and Okumura. Very helpful to me, especially as it's hard to find stuff on Sawaki in English.

                      Also, I'm interested in much of the new sciences, i.e., quantum theory etc. the work by Steve Hagen does a great job in blending zen with what the sciences are confirming. This can get pretty heavy though.

                      Gassho,
                      John


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                      Gassho,
                      John
                      sattoday

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                      • Kyotai

                        #26
                        Zen socks is a wonderful children's book. Found it at the local library.

                        Gassho, Kyotai
                        Will sit

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                        • Byrne
                          Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 371

                          #27
                          Everyday Zen by Charlotte Beck made a big impact on me. Her style shook me up in my heart.

                          Gassho

                          Sat Today

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                          • Tanjin
                            Member
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 138

                            #28
                            I'm currently reading and really enjoying "Each Moment is the Universe" by Katagiri Roshi. As for books that I have found really impactful - "Confessions of a Buddhist Atheist" by Stephen Batchelor (Tibetan/Zen), "No Time to Lose - A Timely Guide to the Way of the Bodhisattva" by Pema Chodron (Tibetan), "The Way of Zen" by Alan Watts (Zen), "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism" by Chogyam Trungpa (Tibetan), and "Stepping Out of Self-Deception: The Buddhas Liberating Teaching of No-Self" by Rodney Smith (Insight/Theravadin).

                            Gassho,
                            Tanjin
                            SatToday

                            PS - Just should add that these books are from a variety of Buddhist sects, but really seem to be universal which is why I like them in particular. I went back in and added the author's background to clarify.
                            Last edited by Tanjin; 01-24-2017, 03:51 AM.
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