Moving to the citayyy..Stevie Wonder!!!!!

[Troy]

Thank you Jundo. Yes, I suppose you are right. Thank you and deep bows.


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Troy

[Aurkihnowe]

Troy,
I've heard rinzai described as the path of quick enlightenment, and Soto as the path of slow enlightenment, but that strikes me as reductionist...

[Aurkihnowe]

Apologies for the lack of etiquette,

Gassho, all,

Richard

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[Mp]

Hi Troy,

You should go and find out. Every organization is different, and has its own approach and atmosphere. The only way to know for sure is to go and see.

Gassho, Jundo

SatToday

Yup ... I would say the same thing, best to go give it a try. =)

Gassho
Shingen

s@today

[Jundo]

Troy,
I've heard rinzai described as the path of quick enlightenment, and Soto as the path of slow enlightenment, but that strikes me as reductionist...

I heard a Zen historian (i forget whom, maybe Carl Bielefeldt) say that everybody in Zen calls the other guy the cursed "gradual", and claims to be the "sudden" path. That is so right.

The truth is that, for both paths of Rinzai and Soto, there are many and varied "sudden" realizations just in this moment, which need to be gradually cultivated over time. There is no "sudden and one is done" path. Both are lifetime paths. And different people take to each with different talents.

Gassho, J

SatToday

[Rich]

It's good to try different methods.
Then you will know what suits you best. Whatever, you will be sitting.

SAT today



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[Jishin]

Troy,
I've heard rinzai described as the path of quick enlightenment, and Soto as the path of slow enlightenment, but that strikes me as reductionist...

They are the same but different.

Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

[Troy]

Moving to the citayyy..Stevie Wonder!!!!!

Thanks guys.


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Troy