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  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 40378

    #16
    Originally posted by Tai Shi
    I understand--have never sat longer than 90 minutes--so am I sensitive? I ask you who know, if with liabilities, would this still be possible--I mean saver situations? What is the benefit of sitting for 2 days completely absorbed in sitting?

    Tai Chi
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    Gassho
    Hi Taishi,

    Where you can or not, with your physical condition and pain, is one thing. You certainly should not unless the doctor says it is possible and recommended.

    However, is it a generally good thing? Yes. Even though there is "nothing to attain" in this Practice, that does not mean there is "nothing to attain". It is our daily, busy running around and chasing after a life of "this and that" which hides the real meaning of "nothing to attain" from us. Only by sitting still, for long periods, truly giving up the chase can we sometimes savor the real meaning of "nothing to attain". It is the little self that demands to be distracted and entertained ... and sometimes only days of sitting quietly not feeding and amusing that "me myself and i" can put that little self out of a job.

    Now, if you cannot attend such a long retreat because of physical limitation, no problem! Why? Your physical pain and limitations also are your "retreat" if you have a wise eye, and offer the same opportunities to rest content without feeding the little self. In other words, you can find "nothing to attain" and freedom right as and because of your limitations which are also like "monastery walls" which offer a place for Practice.

    Gassho, J

    SatToday

    PS - Someone linked to an old Talk and thread today that touches on this ... the difference between "pain" and "suffering" in a Buddhist context ...
    I have friends these days who are feeling the pain of cancer, grief at the death of a spouse, worry over a sick child, a broken heart from a broken marriage, fear and despair from loss of a job. I wish I could take their pain away, but I can't. Zazen is powerless for all of it too, and can't cure their cancer, remove the
    Last edited by Jundo; 07-02-2016, 11:40 PM.
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    • dharmasponge
      Member
      • Oct 2013
      • 278

      #17
      Originally posted by Jundo
      Hi Taishi,

      Where you can or not, with your physical condition and pain, is one thing. You certainly should not unless the doctor says it is possible and recommended.

      However, is it a generally good thing? Yes. Even though there is "nothing to attain" in this Practice, that ......

      Beautifully put Jundo. _/|\_

      Sat_Today

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      • Eishuu

        #18
        "Why? Your physical pain and limitations also are your "retreat" if you have a wise eye, and offer the same opportunities to rest content without feeding the little self. In other words, you can find "nothing to attain" and freedom right as and because of your limitations which are also like "monastery walls" which offer a place for Practice. "

        - thank you Jundo. These words are so helpful to me.

        Gassho
        Lucy
        Sat today

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        • Tai Shi
          Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 3419

          #19
          Well, I stand corrected

          Thinking about session, and that two days is not long, and I know that food and water is provided, it would do me good to face some of my most terrifying fears. Knowing that this is not narcissistic, and that I am not narcissistic, the action of confrontation of self might bring me to a point of awareness. In South Dakota there is nowhere to practice lon session, so perhaps one day when Treeleaf offers session of length, I might participate. So much good application could come into my life from what has been said here.

          Tai Shi
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          Gassho
          Peaceful, Tai Shi. Ubasoku; calm, supportive, for positive poetry 優婆塞 台 婆

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          • Rich
            Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 2614

            #20
            Your whole life can be a retreat but you may have to change some things. For me it was getting up very early and giving up most of the TV.

            SAT today
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            Rich
            MUHYO
            無 (MU, Emptiness) and 氷 (HYO, Ice) ... Emptiness Ice ...

            https://instagram.com/notmovingmind

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            • Jundo
              Treeleaf Founder and Priest
              • Apr 2006
              • 40378

              #21
              Originally posted by Tai Shi
              Well, I stand corrected

              Thinking about session, and that two days is not long, and I know that food and water is provided, it would do me good to face some of my most terrifying fears. Knowing that this is not narcissistic, and that I am not narcissistic, the action of confrontation of self might bring me to a point of awareness. In South Dakota there is nowhere to practice lon session, so perhaps one day when Treeleaf offers session of length, I might participate. So much good application could come into my life from what has been said here.

              Tai Shi
              std
              Gassho
              Hi Taishi,

              If you doctors think you are up for it, you would be more than welcome. We have a Retreat of 2 days each December, but it is available any time, all year round ... and the preparatory materials and cautions can be viewed any time too.

              TREELEAF SANGHA online 2-DAY ANGO-JUKAI-ROHATSU RETREAT
              WELCOME ... ... to our TREELEAF 'ALWAYS AT HOME' Two Day 'ALL ONLINE' ROHATSU (Buddha's Enlightenment Day) RETREAT, being held by LIVE NETCAST on Saturday/Sunday December 5th and 6th, 2015. Please 'sit-a-long' with the LIVE NETCAST at the times below ... to be visible "live" on our Treeleaf Google+ Page during


              Gassho, J

              SatToday
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