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  • Ryumon
    Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 1706

    Music on the mind

    I love music, and listen to music often during the day. I have the advantage of working in a home office, so can listen to what I want to. My tastes are broad, from Bach to the Grateful Dead; from Beethoven to punk rock; from jazz to shakuhachi music.

    However, from time to time, I get a tune stuck in my mind (right now it's Beethoven's 21st piano sonata, the magnificent Waldstein). When this happens, the music often keeps playing when I try to sit. It can be frustrating, and, while I try to let go of it so it fades away, that doesn't always work.

    Any thoughts?

    Kirk
    ---
    Ryūmon (Kirk)
    流文

    SAT/LAH

    I know nothing.
  • Jundo
    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
    • Apr 2006
    • 39477

    #2
    Re: Music on the mind

    Only this ...

    http://video.google.com/videosearch?sou ... a=N&tab=wv
    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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    • Eika
      Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 806

      #3
      Re: Music on the mind

      Hi, Kirk.
      Happens to me everyday . . . every single day. Granted, I sometimes spend 8 or 10 hours daily working with music in some form, but still you'd think that I'd get it out of my system. Sometimes it is existing music, sometimes it is music that is being created (now that's a brain twister: how am I creating music without meaning to? Art Blakey once said that the jazz he played wasn't his, that he was simply the channel for God's music. I see how he could say that.).

      I have learned to let it be the "scenery of zazen." It passes (sometimes, anyway) if I don't care about it and simply let it be.

      Gassho,
      Bill
      [size=150:m8cet5u6]??[/size:m8cet5u6] We are involved in a life that passes understanding and our highest business is our daily life---John Cage

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      • Undo
        Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 495

        #4
        Re: Music on the mind

        Not sure if this helps?

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        • Undo
          Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 495

          #5
          Re: Music on the mind

          On a more serious note, If something happens that affects our mood, we tend to carry it for longer, good or bad. As music, good or bad, can have such a great effect on our mood, it could be the feeling wanting to be recreated and so the music repeated.

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          • dharma84
            Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 17

            #6
            Re: Music on the mind

            I've experienced this too. I've learned it passes the longer I sit, or it becomes "background" music and I just let it be, not trying to make it stop or turn up in volume, etc. just letting it pass. I also sympathize with Hez on kids tv shows--those are the worst ones! Damn you Wiggles and Little Einsteins! :shock:

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            • Shindo
              Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 278

              #7
              Re: Music on the mind

              I use music to block out the noise at work or to run too.

              Current favourites:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQiXrk33_4[/video]]

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS70GnuNdn8[/video]]

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FniHgiyaTY&feature=related[/video]] ... re=related

              Kind regards

              Jools
              [color=#404040:301177ix]"[i:301177ix]I come to realize that mind is no other than mountains and rivers and the great wide earth, the sun and the moon and star[/i:301177ix]s". - [b:301177ix]Dogen[/b:301177ix][/color:301177ix]

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              • will
                Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 2331

                #8
                Re: Music on the mind

                I work on mixing, recording, and playing a song for about 12-14 hours some days(with breaks in between). Sometimes only listening to a 1 minute or 2 minute part for hours. Do I ever get a song stuck in my head? Sure. What to do about it? SIT.

                G,W
                [size=85:z6oilzbt]
                To save all sentient beings, though beings are numberless.
                To penetrate reality, though reality is boundless.
                To transform all delusion, though delusions are immeasurable.
                To attain the enlightened way, a way non-attainable.
                [/size:z6oilzbt]

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                • Shui_Di
                  Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 210

                  #9
                  Re: Music on the mind

                  Hi Kirk.....

                  some times I also hear the "music on the mind". Well, don't get frustrated, take it easy, and be relax
                  I think you shouldn't worry about it. If it comes just comes, when it's stopped, just stop. Just let the music come and go...
                  The only thing that you need to do is Just Sit.
                  So, the music is played or not in your mind, it doesn't matter, just enjoy it . don't care about it...

                  And believe me, whether you realize it or not, the music may not stop, but just disappear by itself...

                  So, Enjoy your sitting. ..........SIT.....

                  Gassho, Shui Di
                  Practicing the Way means letting all things be what they are in their Self-nature. - Master Dogen.

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                  • Jundo
                    Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 39477

                    #10
                    Re: Music on the mind

                    To all the folks who said "Just let it pass" "just sit with the music in the head" "the music may not stop, but just disappear by itself" etc.... I think that is good advice!

                    Gassho, Jundo
                    ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                    • will
                      Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 2331

                      #11
                      Re: Music on the mind

                      Yeah. It's good to just notice it and bring your attention back to something else. I'll have a song part going through my head in extraordinary detail. I just let it go, notice it and do something else. Don't fight it

                      G,W
                      [size=85:z6oilzbt]
                      To save all sentient beings, though beings are numberless.
                      To penetrate reality, though reality is boundless.
                      To transform all delusion, though delusions are immeasurable.
                      To attain the enlightened way, a way non-attainable.
                      [/size:z6oilzbt]

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                      • ChaosWithin
                        Member
                        • May 2008
                        • 31

                        #12
                        Re: Music on the mind

                        Music has always been in my mind, but mostly whenever I wanted it too. Sometimes i get a song stuck in my head, but i would let it run its course, get involved a little even, tehn later something came up and I forgot it for the moment. this was before I started learning about zazen, and saw the video on Jundo's blog that explains sometimes you have to let a thought run its course, if it comes back again and again.
                        I am neither here, nor there...
                        Yet I am both... hmmm....

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                        • Jundo
                          Treeleaf Founder and Priest
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 39477

                          #13
                          Re: Music on the mind

                          Let me mention too that our main Practice of Shikantaza is not focusing on the breath (just sitting with open, spacious mind). However, on those days when the mind will just not settle down due to a flood of emotions, a problem that is pressing on you, or a song that is stuck ... nothing wrong with focusing on or counting the breath for a few minutes or so until things settle a bit.

                          Gassho, Jundo
                          ALL OF LIFE IS OUR TEMPLE

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                          • ChaosWithin
                            Member
                            • May 2008
                            • 31

                            #14
                            Re: Music on the mind

                            Ah, that is very helpful, Jundo. I did not know that.
                            Is there a specific article I could read (in absence of a book ) that explains this Shikantaza a bit? I'm curious now. Eheh. Meh, maybe I'm overcomplicating it. I do that sometimes. :wink:
                            I am neither here, nor there...
                            Yet I am both... hmmm....

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