Sit at drunking alchoric.

[Guest]

How do you think about druking time of sit Zazen?

Jundo sit Zazen when he drunk alchoric.

Antaiji All of member do not accept.

I DO NOT ACCEPT

[Jundo]

How do you think about druking time of sit Zazen?

Jundo sit Zazen when he drunk alchoric.

Antaiji All of member do not accept.

I DO NOT ACCEPT

I do not sit Zazen when I have been drinking.

It is best not to sit under the influence of alcohol. Like driving, if I have had a drink, I wait until the head is clear. Otherwise I might lose my other license.

For the record, I may have a glass of red wine, maybe two, with dinner most nights, rarely more. I ain't 20 years old anymore. I do not sit Zazen after for many hours.

Gassho, Jundo

SatToday, clear headed.

PS - What made you think I sit while drunk or drinking? All we have at the Zazenkai is green tea.

[Jishin]

How do you think about druking time of sit Zazen?

Jundo sit Zazen when he drunk alchoric.

Antaiji All of member do not accept.

I DO NOT ACCEPT

尊敬!座禅!

Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

[Juki]

Koran,

What is bothering you?

This is just the latest in a series of strange and increasingly aggressive questions/accusations.

I know Jundo does not sit Zazen after drinking. But I fear you may be drunk on misinformation that is being fed to you by some person or persons wanting to either dissuade you from coming here or wanting to disrupt the Sangha. All of your concerns and questions would be answered if you just sat quietly, followed some of the discussions and perhaps posted less. Just my opinion, mind you.

Gassho,
Juki

#sattoday

[Jakuden]

Konan,

http://www.treeleaf.org/forums/showthread.php?13943-PRECEPTS-VII-To-Refrain-from-Intoxication

Here is a link to the forum discussion we had recently regarding refraining from intoxication, I thought you might find it helpful.

Gassho,
Jakuden
SatToday

[Rich]

Really Konan, like the monks in Japan don't drink alcohol?

Look, this isn't about whether you drink alcohol 🍷 or not. It's about awareness, presence, the joy and ease of just sitting.

On the Antaiji website the abbot describes how after ceremony they have a party with drinking. Not sure, he may have been describing other temples and monasteries.

But I do agree that drinking can be dangerous and some can't drink at all . if it takes away your knowing then it's a problem.

Please don't rely on others for your opinions.

SAT today

[Jundo]

A word to everyone here, please ...

Be gentle with Mr. K. You already are, but I sense some desire to protect me or Treeleaf. Be gentle here. Some may want to be responding sharply out of a desire to react, but I think Mr K is hurting a bit. A friendly smile would be better.

Gassho, Jundo

[Kyonin]

Hi Mr. K.

I have never sat in the same room with Jundo, but I know he is a ver measured man and keeps his practice clean as any of us. Perhaps you are chasing too many ghosts?

What about just go back to practice?

Gassho,

Kyonin
#SatToday

[Jundo]

Hi Mr. K.

I have never sat in the same room with Jundo, but I know he is a ver measured man and keeps his practice clean as any of us. Perhaps you are chasing too many ghosts?

What about just go back to practice?

Gassho,

Kyonin
#SatToday

Then who was that guy who looked like you I sat with in Washington? After that, I do remember we went out for a beer (only a couple) You might have skipped that part because of your carbohydrate thing.

Gassho, J

[Risho]

Seriously! Now you tell me? lol

Jundo/Kyonin, if you guys are ever in Tampa, we are like one of the US hotspots for craft beer! Not that I absolutely love beer or anything. lol

Gassho,

Risho
-sattoday

[Kyonin]

Oh boy!

I totally forgot! The one who was drunk and tired was me!!

Ok ok, I correct myself! I HAVE sat with Jundo under the same roof and the experience was awesome.

Gassho,

Kyonin
#SatToday

Then who was that guy who looked like you I sat with in Washington? After that, I do remember we went out for a beer (only a couple) You might have skipped that part because of your carbohydrate thing.

Gassho, J

[Doshin]

Seriously! Now you tell me? lol

Jundo/Kyonin, if you guys are ever in Tampa, we are like one of the US hotspots for craft beer! Not that I absolutely love beer or anything. lol

Gassho,



Risho
-sattoday

Florida and craft beers? That does not sound right, I thought you were the land of margaritas!


Gassho

Doshin
Sattoday

[Jundo]

Seriously! Now you tell me? lol

Jundo/Kyonin, if you guys are ever in Tampa, we are like one of the US hotspots for craft beer! Not that I absolutely love beer or anything. lol

Gassho,

Risho
-sattoday

No wait a second, I DID sit with you in Tampa, Risho. Don't remember no craft beer. I do remember it was hot.

I guess visits from me just are not very memorable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDKiNb3kETM

Gassho, Jundo

[Frank]

Good morning..
So easy to misunderstand intentions ...
Should pretty much be a "judgement free zone". ... Imo.

Intoxicants...hmmmm...I do like a good glass of white wine on occasion, however, I stop at one.
Besides precepts, etc... I just have this thing about not being in control.
I would never want for my mind to be fuzzy at anytime...call it living in the moment, etc.
I prefer clarity. At any moment our time could come, or that of a loved one...and I would want to be present...always.

Just my 2 cents

Best wishes and Gassho to all !

Frank

Still recovering from surgery, but still sat today

[Daijo]

I remember meeting you Jundo!

sat today
Daijo