Why do you sit here,Soto Japanese style Zazen at Trealeaf?

[Kakunen]

Why do you sit here,Soto Japanese style Zazen at Trealeaf?

[QUOTE=Konan;172544]

I do not know what Jundo said.
I am begginer at English.

So we are together at Antaiji.

Why do we stay together?

Turky French American from Itary Japanese.French come from Jewish
.

American is not country and said about their power.

Fuck and foolish and shame！

American can not stay there everybody.

Jundo must change mind.America must lose .

Also I know his roots!

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[Jundo]

[QUOTE=Konan;172545]

I do not know what Jundo said.
I am begginer at English.

So we are together at Antaiji.

Why do we stay together?

Turky French American from Itary Japanese.French come from Jewish
.

American is not country and said about their power.

Fuck and foolish and shame！

American can not stay there everybody.

Jundo must change mind.America must lose .

Also I know his roots!

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Hi Konan,

Now I am confused. Please write in Japanese so I can get your point.

Not sure what America or roots has to do with it.

Gassho, Jundo

[Kyotai]

And there are those who mostly prefer quiet, are always around but have little to say. You do not see them sitting in the back of the zazen hall at treeleaf, but they are there. We mostly cannot see each other, body language is not available to the senses at treeleaf and as such, one must make more care in expressing thoughts on forums.

I respect you Konan. Your roots or country of origin do not matter to me.

You were born on this chunk of dirt, I was born on that chunk of dirt.

It's just dirt

Thank you for your practice.

Gassho, Kyotai
Sat today

[Kairu]

"Americans cannot stay at Antaiji", or "there are no Americans at Antaiji"?

Also, I don't think there's anything shameful or ignorant being part of an online sangha.

Additionally, I have respect for the Japanese, or else this school of practice wouldn't exist. We also wouldn't have some of the greatest minds this world has to offer.

You also have to give foreigners a break. Sure, we can visit Japan, but as for STAYING in Japan for (let's say) a 4 month retreat... You're gonna have to have a work visa or pay out the yin yang.

Just trying to be fair.

Kyle,
Sat2day.

[Jundo]

[QUOTE=Konan;172545]

I do not know what Jundo said.
I am begginer at English.

Let me try to summarize in Japanese ...

沈黙の時間があり、話をする時間があります

人々はここよりも安泰寺ではるかに話します。それをすべてを記録した場合, 個人個人やグループの会話で, 人々が生活の中で彼らの問題に天候に洗濯物にメニューにセレモニーの手順に禅について毎日話し ます. それはここに書かれた言葉であり、あなたはネイティブスピーカーではないので、実際よりも複数の単語である と思われるからです。

話をする時間に, 鈴木も多くのことを話しました

http://www.cuke.com/Cucumber%20Project/shunryu%20info/shunryu%20info.html

もちろん、私たちは日本人としてあなたを尊重し、私たちはあなたとしてあなたを尊重し。 だから何？

合掌, Jundo

[Kyonin]

Hi Mr.K.

I respect you and consider you a friend regardless of language or country.

If you have a smile for me, you are a friend!

And I do agree with you. Sometimes we tend to talk too much. But sometimes words are necessary for us to understand... and then we keep silence.

Gassho,

Kyonin
#SatToday

[Jishin]

I'm here at Treeleaf, because I have social anxiety

Hi Anneliese,

I think this is the case for a lot of people at Treeleaf, me included. :-)

Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

[Joyo]

Anneliese and Jishin, me too.

Gassho,
Joyo
sat today

[alan.r]

Thanks Shingen and Risho for the nice words. I have to say, I'm not sure what this thread is really about. There seems to be some cultural divide Konan wants to discuss? Some divide between cultures? And we're not addressing this in the way he wants? This is speculation. In any case, as many have tried to suggest, yes, cultural differences exist, but the human heart is the human heart. Mr. K, I like the video of the poem you posted, I respect you. To me, despite how the poem is read in the video, it ends on a sad note, with maybe some hope mixed in. Longing. "The person I want to be." Here, to me, is that same poem, from Western viewpoint.

The Lake Isle of Innisfree
W. B. Yeats, 1865 - 1939

I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made:
Nine bean-rows will I have there, a hive for the honey-bee;
And live alone in the bee-loud glade.

And I shall have some peace there, for peace comes dropping
slow,
Dropping from the veils of the morning to where the cricket
sings;
There midnight’s all a glimmer, and noon a purple glow,
And evening full of the linnet’s wings.

I will arise and go now, for always night and day
I hear lake water lapping with low sounds by the shore;
While I stand on the roadway, or on the pavements grey,
I hear it in the deep heart’s core.

Gassho,
Alan
sat today

[Kakunen]

安泰寺でもshameやquietと言う言葉はたまに飛び出した。

あまり使わない言葉だ。

その人がある意図を持って使った。

人間性と状況と皆への配慮。

だから我々は切磋琢磨した。

インターネットだけで禅が成り立つとは思えない。サポートにはなるけど。

私の事を知らない皆さんは、私に反対したり、見当違いなことを言う。

インターネットでもGoogle翻訳でも分からない。

止まらない国アメリカ。知りたい、知りたい、知りたい。




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[Kakunen]

Why do you sit here,Soto Japanese style Zazen at Trealeaf?

私は今晩仕事を終えて安穏寺禅堂に行く、そして月曜日に帰る。片道二時間半。

日本に禅堂は多くない。ただ顔を合わせて座り、作務をする。

これが基本だと思う。

苦労して行く。私も安泰寺に行ったときはめまいで歩けなかった。インターネットに頼ってはいけ ない。


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[Joyo]

"Do not rely on the internet"

Are any of us relying on the internet? That is not what Treeleaf is about.

Gassho,
Joyo
sat today (without the use of the internet)

[Jishin]

至道無難　唯嫌揀擇

但莫憎愛　洞然明白

Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

[Kakunen]

至道無難　唯嫌揀擇

但莫憎愛　洞然明白

Gasho, Jishin, _/st\_

これは中国語だね。よくわかんないや！

[Kakunen]

"Do not rely on the internet"

Are any of us relying on the internet? That is not what Treeleaf is about.

Gassho,
Joyo
sat today (without the use of the internet)

よくわかんないや。なんで日本語じゃないの？